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Regarding popcorn sealing

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#1
  • マキ
  • mail
  • 2021/05/04 12:57

I was thinking of moving and looking at condo listings in central Waikiki.

When I came to Hawaii, I didn't know about it and lived there, but
along the way, a friend told me about it and informed me of the dangers of popcorn sealing.
They said it was a ceiling treatment that contained asbestos, and that if you touched it in any way, or on a dry day, the powder would fly around and if you inhaled it, you would get lung cancer.

The room we looked at this time had a popcorn ceiling, but
the owner was trying to rent it without explaining that at all, so we are not going to rent it.

Many of the condos in Waikiki have popcorn ceilings, so if you are going to rent a condo, I would recommend that you find a place with a clean ceiling and sign a contract to avoid health hazards.

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#2
  • ポップコーンシーリング
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  • 2021/05/05 (Wed) 08:24
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The use of asbestos was banned in 1977.
When was your building built?

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#3
  • FYI
  • 2021/05/05 (Wed) 15:39
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I found this site to be helpful to both lenders and renters regarding popcorn sealing.
Please see below.
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https://myfavoritehawaii.com/no-more-japanese-tenant/

https://realestate.yahoo.co.jp/knowledge/chiebukuro/detail/1360955823/

The construction method was commonly used before 1977.
Also, most condos, especially those built after 1977, do not
contain asbestos, even if the ceilings look like popcorn sealings.
Most older condos in the Waikiki and Ala Moana areas seem to have these types of ceilings, but
even if they do contain asbestos, unless it is coming off in pieces and being inhaled,
there is nothing to worry too much about. I agree.
On the contrary, there are some malicious tenants who try to put a burden on the landlord by using the term "popcorn sealing". I think it would be better to rent the room only to those who are willing to accept popcorn sealing.

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#4
  • 家主
  • 2021/05/05 (Wed) 17:26
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I am the owner of a condo built in 1977 in Waikiki.
When I bought the condo in 1999, it had asbestos-containing popcorn ceilings; in 2010, all the ceilings were renovated and the popcorn ceilings were removed and repainted. But it looks like a popcorn ceiling and is indistinguishable from a popcorn ceiling. Landlords and real estate agents are required to sign a letter of explanation when renting or selling a property with popcorn sealing. So if the landlord didn't know about it this time, it may not have been a popcorn ceiling.

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#6
  • 安全第一
  • 2021/05/05 (Wed) 22:08
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Royal Kuhio
Island Colony
and others
have bumpy popcorn sealing ceilings
because they use asbestos

before renting
and have had asbestos removal done properly
choosing a safe room is
not hazardous to your health

you can't afford to fall down

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#7

I'm copying and pasting this from a previous column in the Daily Sun.

Is there asbestos in Hawaii buildings
It is no exaggeration to say that all apartments and condos built before the 1980s
contain it.

It will have been utilized in floors, walls, ceilings, insulation or structure.
However, asbestos is not harmful in a stable state.
Inhaling airborne material increases the risk of carcinogenicity, but
this does not usually occur.
There is no need to be
overly concerned about the presence of asbestos in your home, as it is not harmful in everyday life.

The time when it is dangerous is during demolition.
Asbestos is often dispersed into the air during dismantling,
it must be avoided to be inhaled.
During such work,
it is required by law to entrust the work to a contractor who specializes in handling asbestos.

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#9
  • 大倉
  • 2021/05/06 (Thu) 19:02
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If you change a light bulb or something, a little vibration or
if the electric umbrella touches the ceiling, it will fall down in powder, and if you breathe in that powder, you're done.
It is better to rent a room with a flat ceiling that does not have asbestos ceiling than to live under it, which is still nerve-wracking
.

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#10
  • 爺
  • 2021/05/07 (Fri) 00:37
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I don't know if the room that #9 is living in contains asbestos or not, but
before talking about asbestos, it would be too much of a problem for a room to have powder falling from the ceiling if it is touched or vibrated slightly
.
I think you should move out as soon as possible.

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#11
  • 内装職人
  • 2021/05/09 (Sun) 08:45
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Ceiling has to be smooth ！.

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#12
  • ハワイ
  • 2021/06/09 (Wed) 10:02
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When you sign a lease, you can get a document from the real estate agent
certifying that there are no hazardous substances used in the painting, building materials, etc.

If the apartment is rented by a real estate agent, you can get this document from him or her. In my previous apartment, the real estate agent gave me this document when I signed the contract.

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#13
  • ワイキキママ
  • 2021/06/14 (Mon) 22:03
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！
Most of Royal Kuhio and Ai Koro have ceilings with asbestos.
If the window is facing west, asbestos will be flying in the wind, which is bad for your health.
If you have to choose, you should choose a room with a window on the east or north.

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#14
  • 塩害鉄骨
  • 2021/06/26 (Sat) 07:46
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After seeing the Florida condo collapse, I'm starting to wonder if the older condos in Waikiki are safe. Like Miami, Hawaii is constantly exposed to rain and sea breezes, so I guess it is the same environment.
Are the regulations in Florida and Hawaii at a similar level ？?

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#15
  • マクド
  • 2021/07/02 (Fri) 08:11
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I was looking for a long term rental in Royal Kuhio and asked a lot of questions to a private owner who advertises property rentals on Vivinavi.

I told him about the asbestos in the ceiling and suddenly he stopped responding.

Many people rent without telling me about the asbestos.

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#16
  • かな
  • 2021/07/04 (Sun) 15:15
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It's true that asbestos drifts
through the air in invisible fine powder, so before you know it, it's drifting through the air from the ceiling
and making the floor rough.

Families with children should
definitely not have a popcorn ceiling.

Or you should tell your landlord and ask him to remove the popcorn ceiling.

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#17
  • Jack
  • 2021/07/04 (Sun) 15:54
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I am also very concerned.

The collapsed condo in Florida seems to have used materials and cost savings in cutting corners.

Condos over 40 years old are a concern.

The fact that the land was swampy probably had an impact.

I have heard that in Honolulu, the land in Waikiki and Kakaako is reclaimed land, but I wonder if it is safe ？

Real estate will make it harder to sell older condos.

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#18
  • こんど
  • 2021/07/14 (Wed) 22:22
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There was a time in the 1970s when Japanese general contractors were rushing to Hawaii.
At that time, condos in Waikiki managed by Japanese companies had well-constructed piles and foundations
and the columns were well calculated structurally, so there were no problems.
Condos built by an American construction company have strength problems.

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#19
  • takingtheleap
  • 2021/07/27 (Tue) 13:57
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The percentage of popcorn ceilings containing asbestos ranges from 1% to 10%.
I used to work for a law firm specializing in asbestos litigation.
However, the lung cancer rate is high only for long-term exposures, especially for smokers, who are five to ten times more likely to develop lung cancer than nonsmokers.
Unless you break a ceiling, the amount of asbestos in the air will be next to none.
The chance of getting lung cancer after a few EXPOSURE of asbestos is close to zero.
Vigilance is of course necessary, but there is no need to be more vigilant than necessary.

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