Vivinavi : Hawaii : (United States) Hawaii

• sunset
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• 2021/09/12 (Sun) 07:45
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A loco shared this case with us.

I tried to file an Initial Claim on the Claim Inquiry screen because "This claim has expired as of ●/●/2021" was displayed. However, "Initial Claim already exists or a current claim is already on file. Please contact your local office" is displayed and I cannot apply
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. Open Claim Inquiry screen
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Click "Show history for the past 2 years" at the bottom of Claim Inquiry screen
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Click "9/20/2020 -9/19/2021" was displayed. In other words, the Benefit Year End expiration had not actually expired yet.
*The dates "9/20/2020-9/19/2021" are for reference only.

People in the above situation can be dealt with in one of two ways.
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① The option under the $25 difference rule while receiving PEUC is September 2020 （ ← The date is only a reference example ） and if you choose the "PEUC" option, your Initial Claim application at that time If you choose "PEUC", the Initial Claim application at that time will be automatically reactivated. In other words, you do not need to apply for Initial Claim.
*Please submit your weekly File a Claim Certification application by the deadline, if possible.

② September 19, 2021 if you did not have an option while receiving PEUC （ ← Dates are for example only ） Please try to apply for Initial Claim after the date. Those who have no labor income at all since last March should expect a high possibility that their second Initial Claim application will be rejected.
*Please submit your weekly File a Claim Certification application by the deadline, if possible.

• sunset
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• 2021/09/12 (Sun) 08:03
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There are many people, including locals, who are not sure if they had a choice while receiving PEUC, or did not know they had a choice at the time.

Have you ever seen the following screen while receiving PEUC ？

Continue on PEUC
After PEUC exhausts/ends, start my new regular claim

Stop PEUC
Start my new regular claim

If you choose "Continue on PEUC":
the second Initial Claim application at the time will automatically be reactivated. In other words, you do not need to submit an Initial Claim application.

If you chose "Stop PEUC":
The payment from your second Initial Claim application should have already started at the time you chose it. A maximum of 26 weeks will be paid.

If you have never seen the screen and have never selected it:
You will be able to apply for a second Initial Claim as soon as the Benefit Year End expires.

• ajisai
• 2021/09/12 (Sun) 08:56
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445 ajisaimail today 08:52
Dear Sunset

Thank you for all your important information.

I am making a Partial claim, I made a second initial claim during PEUC's $25 difference rule. Then the term was extended for a year and the amount of money was increased. At that time, I did not have a choice whether to continue PEUC or not. I just received a notice that it was not a PEUC, but a second initial claim. I thought the additional amount was for PEUC, but I was worried that it might be for the second initial claim.

How do I know if it was an extension of the PEUC?
When I did the second initial claim, the selection was not displayed.
If I received it on the second INITIAL CLAIM, will I not be paid once that amount has expired?

If you know, please let me know. Thank you very much.

• sunset
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• 2021/09/12 (Sun) 10:49
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Ajisai,
To those of you who became new WBAs without an option,

"I made a second Initial claim during the PEUC $25 difference rule. Then, the term was extended by one year and the amount was increased. I didn't have the option of continuing with PEUC at that time."
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If you submit a second Initial Claim while receiving PEUC and the new WBA amount is automatically increased over the current WBA amount without the option to "Continue PEUC" or "Stop PEUC", the UI office may have decided not to give you the option. If the new WBA amount increases automatically over the current WBA amount without the right to choose "Continue PEUC" or "Stop PEUC," it means that the UI office did not give the right to choose. It is also possible that the UI office did not give the option because it anticipated that the unemployment insurance would completely expire if a second Initial Claim was filed later in September 2021.

"If I received it on my second INITIAL CLAIM, would I not be paid once that portion expires already?"
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The new WBA from the second INITIAL CLAIM application will be paid for up to 26 weeks before it expires completely.

Many people misunderstand that the applicant cannot request to receive an option, but the UI office will make a comprehensive evaluation of the applicant's unemployment insurance history, work history, current WBA, new WBA, past work income, current work income, employment status, etc. status, etc., before deciding whether or not to grant the person the option.

The number of people who were given a choice was 6500, which is small relative to the total. Lucky by choice ・ Please assume that it is not an unlucky lottery, but a proper comprehensive decision on the part of the UI office.

In summary of the above, I think Ajisai is fortunate in the end because it means that he will receive more new WBA for a longer period of time.

For reference.
There are also shorter hours in the Unemployment Insurance Help Team. However, he was not given the option while receiving PEUC and when he applied for a second Initial Claim this month in September, he was not approved and his unemployment insurance was completely revoked because he did not meet the past income line. In other words, it seems that even if you apply for a second Initial Claim after September 2021, it will not necessarily be approved just because you are working shorter hours. Even if it is approved, it will be for a small WBA amount.

If you are not satisfied with the simulation calculation of the second Initial Claim application in September 2021, we recommend that you ask the call center to explain the situation. Please read #419 of this Topic for the simulation calculation method.

Questions and doubts about the simulation calculation will lead to a development that will force us to touch the privacy of the person concerned, such as past income. Please refrain from writing in this Topic and consult the call center directly.

• Nick
• 2021/09/12 (Sun) 10:56
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Mr. SUNSET

Good morning.
Thank you for your help.
Thank you very much for your immediate response and advice. I appreciate it.

When I logged in today, the expiration date was next year and I was able to file today.
But last week's file was gone and the balance was wrong
I booked online.
It would be very helpful to get a call from UI at the appointment time.
I will report back ！.