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Tipping on Tours

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#1
  • J
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  • 2023/09/25 16:21

I work in the tour industry. Compared to people from other countries, Japanese people tip extremely little. Perhaps it is because you don't know, but I have lived in the U.S. for a long time and sometimes I don't like the fact that Japanese people don't have a good reputation. I will write this in reference to the tips I myself pay in Hawaii or when I go abroad. By the way, I am not particularly rich and have a normal income & When I act with my foreign friends, the other party is also like this.

restaurant ( sit down meal ) = 20%, at least 15% if service is slow or something
pick up of hoardings or drinks at a take-out store = $ 0 to lowest option ( 10, 1 5% or $1, etc., depending on terminal )
Valet car rental, etc. at hotel ( Tipping staff for valet services = $5 to
Tipping tour guides and others who have helped you = $10 or more, $20 or more for group participation. More if there is a high level of satisfaction or if the service is above normal expectations.

I understand very much that the yen is weak, but I am very disappointed when I see people tipping less than $5 on tours. If you would like to know more, please let me know...

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#2
  • 感じが悪い
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  • 2023/09/26 (Tue) 17:11
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If you get a better position in the travel business, you don't have to count on tips.

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#3
  • lani
  • 2023/09/26 (Tue) 19:59
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As a fellow Japanese, I am really embarrassed. The other day, a server was chasing a Japanese man coming out of one of the restaurants and telling him that he didn't have a tip. The one who was probably his father told his family in Japanese that he did not want to pay for the meal because it was too expensive.
I always wish they would play a video or something on the plane on the way there to explain.

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#4
  • min
  • 2023/09/26 (Tue) 21:19
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When I used to work in the wedding industry, I was an attendant, but I had a parent who gave $ 1 as a tip to the hair and makeup artist.

This was for accompanying the couple from the preparation at the hotel, to the make-over right before the wedding, and then to the photo shoot at the park. I was surprised.
I felt really sorry for the make-up artist and told my parents, but she said, "It's just a gratuity ? We paid a lot of money, so we will decide how much it costs.

The make-up artist laughed at me.
I was also asked to have a cup of coffee, $ which I did.

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#5
  • Clin
  • 2023/09/26 (Tue) 21:34
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I understand ! Japanese tourists have no concept of tipping, and I worry if they are embarrassed in the US.
Foreigners always order one plate per person and leave a tip of 18-25%, but Japanese people, even if they come with 4 people, order 2 plates to share and ask for a plate and a photo, and even if I respond pleasantly, they just leave a coin with a clink. Even if we responded pleasantly, they would just leave the coins with a clink.
Toilet ? Check ! It is a little embarrassing to use Japanese and not be aware that you are in a foreign country.
The world will make fun of you. I think it would be better to inform tour companies thoroughly at the time of application.

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#7
  • こーの字
  • 2023/09/27 (Wed) 07:45
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I began to feel that tips are gratuitous or encouraging only after working on the receiving end of them.
I also began to feel that it is a lubricant that keeps society running, and when I give it out, I feel a sense of "thank you".

In this respect, I think that since there is no tipping culture in Japan, there is no sense of both giving and receiving tips, and
the decision is based on numbers only.

I have also heard that major Japanese agencies ask you not to announce the tip at the end of the tour.
Maybe it is because they announce to Japanese tourists that tipping is included in the tour price, but
it seems a bit like they are imposing their own culture.

On the other hand, I have read articles that the entire US is getting tired of tipping because of Corona.
I think the conversation about how much is a proper tip ? will continue in the future.

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#9
  • 人材ナメンナヨ
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  • 2023/09/27 (Wed) 10:51
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Japanese travelers are often frustrated with their travels,
losing their temper over trivial matters,
complaining about the progress of their trip,
even complaining about the Japanese when they find them, and so on.
We are very grateful that you travel with us because of the weak yen.
And always at the end, they say, "This would never happen in Japan.
Sorry. I'm sorry.

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#10
  • こーの字
  • 2023/09/27 (Wed) 12:36
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I personally think that the way Hawaii has been marketed to Japan in the past was
an extension of Japan, but with a resort experience
.
Waikiki in particular would have specialized in this.

Then the clientele changed completely at Corona,
with the increase of tourists from the US mainland,
I think there was a change on our side to welcome them, including tips.

And now, with the gradual increase of visitors from Japan,
they come to Hawaii with the same feeling as before,
while we see things differently,
and I think the difference in perspective has come to the fore.

That's all for now.

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#11

I wonder if the weak yen and high prices in addition to the lack of a tipping culture in Japan are having a negative impact.
I think many people think that a tip is something that you don't have to pay unless you have received excellent customer service or other memorable service.

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#12
  • ホノルル
  • 2023/09/29 (Fri) 20:31
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Tour Desk ( Optional tours from JTB and other companies ) include Tip, so
in that case, some people don't put the Tip.

In this case, you should contact the tour desk company.

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#14
  • G
  • 2023/10/03 (Tue) 11:25
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I apologize for my ignorance, but I see that $ 5 is about the going rate for a valet.
I only gave $ 3 at most, I regret that.
Surely, $ 3 doesn't even buy a cup of coffee.
Thank you for stating the market price, it is very helpful for travelers.

I heard that the price for a tour guide is $ 10-20, but what would be the price for a private tour and driving ?
$ I was thinking of giving a rough fraction of 18-23% of the price, not 10-20. I was thinking of giving it to you with an adjustment of 18-23% of the amount, but is that correct?

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#15

Post subject.

#14 Mr. G
> I heard that the tour guide is charged $ 10-20, but if I ask him to drive on a private tour, what would be a reasonable price ?
$ I was thinking of giving him 18-23% of the amount, not 10-20.

How long did you stay with us and did you treat us well ( Did you take pictures for us, did you take care of us, did you take care of us in any way, etc.? ) I think it depends on

how long they have been with you, how special they are to you, whether they took your picture, took care of you, etc. I have worked with both Japanese and foreigners in the tour and service industry, and I have received over $100 per group for private tours like the one you are talking about. The biggest tip I ever received in my life was about 150,000 dollars, but in the case of tours, I can work a full day and leave with about 100 dollars per staff member.

For myself, when I go to a destination and join a group tour, I give $ $10-$20 each ( for example, x2 ) if my partner and I are traveling together, and more than double that for a private tour.

By the way, when I moved to Hawaii over 10 years ago, I used to pay $3 for valet too. With rising prices, $3 doesn't even buy you a cup of coffee........................ If they don't give me less than $10-20 per head for a tour, I think they have no manners.

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#16

I think it's time to revisit the almost exclusively American practice of mandatory tipping. It should only be allowed if the service was so good that
it was deemed worthy of tipping in the restaurant originally.

It's not right in the first place for business owners to charge their customers a tip for not paying their employees a standard salary, and if they don't tip bus drivers, for example, why is it halfway compulsory in cabs?

Also, why is it necessary to tip people who should have a license and a reasonable salary, such as hairdressers and massage therapists?

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#17
  • 疑問2
  • 2023/10/13 (Fri) 08:39
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I think it's time to rethink the forced tipping practice. I agree with the opinion that.

I think people who work for a tipped job are mistaken. The correct way to think about it is that we are essentially living paycheck to paycheck, and we happen to be grateful ! that tips are added to that.

But I'm paralyzed, and I get angry when I get a small tip because I think that the tip I calculated in my head is added to my standard salary.

It's hard to live in Hawaii with high prices and a life you can't afford, but smile, talk to each other, and have fun.

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#18

I totally agree with #16 and #17.
The bad system of tipping customers to cover the exploitation by the business owners.
Only in the U.S., really. Forced tipping of customers.
The tipping system should be abolished. I think it is up to the customer to give a little as a gratuity for the excellent service he/she received.

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#19

Mr. Question
Mr. Question 2


The custom of tipping is not mandatory, it is what it is. It's not quite the same as "business owners charging customers tips for not paying their employees a standard salary."
I understand that tips are separate.


I agree with you that tipping is not customary. ( I work in the beauty service industry )

When I deal with customers from Japan, I don't get angry about the amount of money because I honestly don't expect it, but compared to people from Europe and America, I often feel that Japan has not changed yet because of their dull senses, I often feel disappointed that Japan has not changed yet.

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#20

I wonder if only Japanese really tip less ?
I think there may be a circumstance that you often work with Japanese people, or that you are aware of Japanese people as they are also Japanese.
# As Mr. 16 said, it is not only Japan that does not have a tipping culture, but most countries other than the US do not require tipping. It is strange that people in other countries understand and observe good manners, but only the Japanese do not.
Where do people from other countries learn such manners? ? Are there any clear guidelines for tipping? ?
I have the impression that Japanese people, both visitors and guests, are very strict toward the same Japanese people.

Putting aside the weak yen, the high cost of living has made me feel that the prices of goods and services are not commensurate with their value.
I just hope that the economy will not go into recession in the future.

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#21

It depends on the position.
I don't really agree with the "only Japanese" point.
I work with people from the north side of the mainland and Koreans.
They pay or don't pay, it varies. I have the impression that even many Americans don't pay for over the counter purchases, but Japanese tourists pay all over the place for no reason at all.

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#22

A friend of mine is an airport shuttle driver, and he said that not only Asian people, but also Europeans don't tip.

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#23

I think it is up to each person, regardless of nationality, whether or not to tip. I have the impression that many Japanese people are too strict and concerned about the same Japanese people, perhaps because of that kind of education. The Japanese culture of "right to the right" education is a bad thing.
Also, it is not only about tipping, but many Japanese do not say anything to the other person on the spot, but complain persistently at such places or afterwards. Frankly speaking, I think it is foolish. Aside from that, there is no rule in the US Constitution or state law that says you must tip. Also, this is a bit off topic, but many Japanese people say that the yen is weak, but honestly, from an American point of view, I don't give a damn about the exchange rate situation.
Why do you feel sorry for them because of the weak yen and why should you lower the price just for Japanese people? ?
On the contrary, when the yen was strong, did you take the exchange rate into consideration when you traveled to Japan ?
No, you did not. ?
It is unequal.
So, I don't care about that, if you don't have money, don't force yourself to come here.

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#24
  • Sean0914
  • 2023/10/20 (Fri) 20:05
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#14 Mr. G

I think $ 3 is normal for valet parking.
My family works at the Marriott valet and they say
average $ 2.
Same for those from the mainland, sometimes $ 5, but $ 1. My friend valets at Trump and says $ 1.

If you get
$ 5 for about 10 customers an hour, that's about $ 400 tips a day.
I say it's not possible.

I'll put the 2023 tip price for your reference.

https://www.hawaii-arukikata.com/hiinfo/s_taizai/tip.html#tip09

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