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• sunset
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• 2020/12/28 (Mon) 12:56
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Dear UI, PUA, and PEUC,
For those of you who are on the fence about applying for EB20,

I am copy-pasting below the unemployment insurance section of a major Forbes article dated December 27. Please keep in mind that this is only media speculation.
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Unemployment Insurance: Impact

By signing the stimulus bill today rather than yesterday, millions of Americans will The stimulus bill provides for 11 weeks of enhanced federal unemployment benefits through March 14, Benefit weeks begin on a Sunday, so since Trump signed the stimulus bill today, states cannot start unemployment benefits until next Sunday, That means unemployment insurance will lapse for one week, leaving millions of unemployed Americans without essential financial support. However, despite the delay, unemployment benefits would still end on March 14, 2021, which means recipients would lose $ 300 in benefits and only receive 10 weeks of unemployment. That would limit the amount of total unemployment insurance to $ 3,000, rather than the anticipated $ 3,000. anticipated 3,300 for each individual recipient.


This article states that "By President Trump signing the bill today, rather than the day before, the states will have until Sunday, January 3 （ ） to extend the 11 weeks and 300 per week. cannot start the unemployment insurance program （ The Second Stimulus Package ） of 11-week extensions and $300 weekly benefits until Sunday January 3. This means you will lose one week of unemployment insurance. The $300 per week allowance could be for 10 weeks instead of 11 weeks," it says. As we have repeatedly stated, this is only media speculation.

The responsible team and I speculate that "the January 2 closing may be paid retroactively," but since Governor Ige and the UI office have not officially announced anything, our thoughts are just speculation.

If the Forbes article is correct, everyone at UI, PUA, PEUC, and EB20 could lose their $300 allowance for the January 2 closing. Also, those who still have PEUC account balances could lose their unemployment insurance for the January 2nd closing. Unless Governor Ige and the UI Office make a formal announcement on what they will do about these issues, there is currently no recourse to recover the January 2nd balance. As the UI office recently called for, be sure to file a Claim a Certification application every week.

Here is an explanation for those who are wondering about applying for EB20: EB20 is a permanent unemployment insurance program that lasts until the unemployment rate drops to 5%, which is separate from The Second Stimulus Package. Therefore, those who have already lost their PEUC account balance will lose the week ending January 2 unless they apply for EB20.

If you decide to apply for EB20, please consider applying for EB20 tomorrow, as the Benefit Year End deadline is December 29. Like the PEUC application, the EB20 application should not be accepted during the evening hours, so we strongly recommend that you open the UI system before evening in a location with good reception.

I will do my best to look for any new information updates, but if you find the latest official announcement from Gov. Ige and the UI office, it would be helpful if you could post it in this topic with the link. Thank you in advance.

Those of you who share information about advice from the call center, the call center may give wrong advice without information yet shared from the Director and Examiner, so if you get that impression, please ask the Examiner to "also Could you please reconfirm ？". Please do so.

Forbes article link:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2021/12/27/report-trump-will-sign-stimulus-package/?sh=2b0a10812451&fbclid=IwAR0p6JcPtk-puhSyQWRQDPlfVILoDm1eA1ifcB-THi3W8ybeJzamcmXyr84

• 北海道
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• 2020/12/28 (Mon) 13:51
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Dear Sunset

Hello.

I have another question.

This is for those who are not sure about applying for EB20, which is a permanent unemployment insurance program that lasts until the unemployment rate drops to 5%, which is separate from The Second Stimulus Package. Therefore, those who have already lost their PEUC account balance will lose the week ending January 2 unless they apply for EB20.

You mention that EB is not 13 weeks?

If we wait for the 11 week extension for PEUC or APPLY for EB
I don't think there is that much difference in the length of time we can finally get
what do you think?

https://labor.hawaii.gov/blog/news/6525/
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Federal Pandemic Unemployment Compensation (FPUC)

Provides up to 11 weeks of an additional $ 300 weekly benefit to eligible claimants.

A claimant must be eligible for regular UI, PUA,
Once implemented, FPUC is available between Dec. 27, 2020, and week ending March 13, 2021.
You are saying that $300 will be provided by EB, right?

Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation (PEUC)

Increases the number of weeks of benefits an individual may claim through the PEUC program from 13 to 15.

Once implemented, PEUC is available between Dec. 27, 2020 and the week ending March 13, 2021 and allows individuals to claim through the PEUC program from 13 to 24. Once implemented PEUC is available between Dec. 27, 2020 and the week ending March 13, 2021 and allows individuals receiving benefits as of March 13 to continue through April 10, 2021, as long as the individual has not reached the maximum number of
I still don't see the point of having a zero balance.

Also, as was the case with PEUC, EB apply is
until 5pm or 5:30pm, I believe.

Please do.

• sunset
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• 2020/12/28 (Mon) 14:26
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Hokkaido-san

I will answer your question as soon as possible. I know it is hard to read, but please read all of this topic once.

Isn't EB 13 weeks?
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Please read through #350.

I don't think there is that much difference in the final length of time you can get if you wait for the 11 week extension for PEUC or APPLY for EB?
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Please look over #570.

You are saying that the $300 will also benefit EB, correct?
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Please look over the PDF file in #598.

It still doesn't seem to make sense if you have a zero balance.
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In the absence of a formal announcement of specific guidance from the UI office, everyone should make their own decision. The team in charge and I are of the opinion that "it is up to you to decide".

• Pools
• 2020/12/28 (Mon) 15:04
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Mr. SUNSET

Sorry for the delay in thanking you. Thank you for your kind response.

"Please read #448 in this topic while looking at where your account balance is displayed in your UI system." You responded, "Where the account balance is shown" means that if you click on
My Account -> Claim Inquiry
from the screen after logging in, you will see
Summary of the last 4
The maximum benefits on your claim have been exhausted. 12/28/2020 you have been paid $ ●●*.
* This does not include any special payments.
sunset, you say, "Your benefit year ends ●●/20●●●" is shown in the place where the account balance is written. I am wondering if you can tell me where I can click to see it.

I read in #448 that there are two account balances, "zero" and "exhausted", but I don't understand what the difference is or what the words mean. What is the difference? If these two are different, will my work be different? I see ？

I see
My Account -> Claim Inquiry
now shows the following I now see My Account -> Claim Inquiry
The maximum benefits on your claim have been exhausted. as of 12/28/2020 you have been paid $ ●●*.
I think yesterday the date part was 12/27/2020, but since we are in a special situation, will the date be updated in a timely manner?

In #610, you said "This is for those who are wondering about applying for EB20: EB20 is a permanent unemployment insurance program that lasts until the unemployment rate drops to 5%, so it is separate from The Second Stimulus Package that is being used. Therefore, those who have already lost their PEUC account balance will lose the week ending January 2 unless they apply for EB20." but does this mean that in my case, whether or not to apply for EB will not change if I wait for Governor Ige's announcement tomorrow? Or should I do it today?

• sunset
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• 2020/12/28 (Mon) 16:30
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Mr. Pool,

"The maximum benefits on your claim have been exhausted. as of 12/28/2020 you have been paid $ ●●*. * This does not include any special payments."
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I see, the account balance is now in Exhausted status, so the display has changed. Now, please open the page that says [Welcome （ Pool's name ） ! ], and right above the [Week Ending Date] and [Current Status], you will see [Claim: 10/28/2020 to 12/29/2020] as an example for your reference. The one that is [12/29/2020] is the Benefit Year End Due Date at PEUC. If the date is next year, it is the original Benefit Year End when you first applied for unemployment insurance.

"I read #448 and it seems that there are two account balances, "zero" and "exhausted", but I don't understand what the difference is or what the term means. What is the difference? If these two are different, will my work be different? My display is "exhausted" so does that mean it is not "zero" ？"
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Please read #48 and #49 of this Topic for reference. Zero" is when the account balance is exactly and cleanly exhausted. Exhausted" is when you have exhausted your account balance below your WBA. When you see either of these indications, it is time to apply for EB20.

"In my case, I just looked at My Account -> Claim Inquiry and it shows the following The maximum benefits on your claim have been exhausted. 12/28/2020 you have been paid $ ●●*. I think yesterday the date part was 12/27/2020, but I wonder if the date will be updated in a timely manner since we are in a special situation."
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The 12/28/2020 part changes daily with today's date.

"In my case, does that mean that I can wait for Governor Ige's announcement tomorrow to change whether or not to apply for EB? Or should I do it today?"
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Governor Ige made a formal announcement today, but no guidance for applicants who have exhausted their PEUC account balance and are unsure about applying for EB20. If there is no specific guidance announcement from the UI office by tomorrow morning, please consider applying for EB20. Personally, I suspect that if you apply after the Benefit Year End deadline has expired, there is a possibility that your unemployment insurance may be systematically expired once and you may have to go through more trouble to get the call center to correct it, but this is just speculation.

I was suddenly wondering about Pool's previous questions, how did you switch from UI to PEUC last time? Did you have someone else do it for you? Please try to catch up by reading all of this topic again, as PEUC and EB20 are almost the same pattern.

• sunset
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• 2020/12/28 (Mon) 18:09
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[Formal Announcement from Governor Ige

Today, we received a formal announcement from Governor Ige. As it turns out, there was no specific guidance for those who have exhausted their PEUC account balance and are wondering about applying for EB20. Please read the announcement about the $300 per week, PUA, and PEUC.
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https://labor.hawaii.gov/blog/news/6525/?fbclid=IwAR1yWlShB0sTfC_GsHTqmH1MtcvFknabPy_S9cbs8aGJOFC2i2bPyCyCGvk

The Hawaii government has provided the payment The Hawaii government is awaiting guidance from the Department of Labor regarding the arrangements. Also, it appears that any weeks of delayed payments while the Second Stimulus Package is being implemented in the UI system will be paid retroactively.

On a different note, in this official announcement from Governor Ige, the FFCRA （ Families First Coronavirus Response Act ） that I shared in #222 of this Topic has been extended through March 14, 2021. If you work for a company with less than 500 employees, please use your Paid Sick Leave rights rather than refusing to come to work if you are involved in a coronavirus outbreak or are unable to leave your child at home to study online.

Also, I was impressed by the new addition of "Those who refuse to receive full time pay will not be eligible for unemployment benefits. It appears that there has been a sharp increase in the number of employees who are intentionally refusing full time shifts because they do not want to lose their unemployment insurance eligibility. Employers are obligated to report this to the UI office, so please be cautious and careful.

• sunset
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• 2020/12/28 (Mon) 21:52
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I know many people are confused by the huge amount of information, so I have summarized the key points of what we know at this point.

The most important thing is to continue to file a Claim a Certification every week, as the UI office officially announced in #566 of this topic. Also, as I said in #570, there is no difference in timing between the PEUC 11-week extension and EB20, both of which end in March. The only difference is that the EB20 review is a bit stricter than the PEUC review.

Please read ① through ④ to see when the Benefit Year End deadline is for your situation. Please note that this is only a summary as of today and there is no specific guidance from the UI office.

① Those who have already exhausted their PEUC account balance

（ Option 1 ）
Apply for EB20 before Benefit Year End deadline

（ Option 2 ）
Wait for PEUC 11-week extension guidance
*No guarantee that you will qualify for a PEUC 11-week extension
*If you do not qualify for a PEUC 11-week extension, you lose unemployment insurance and $300 per week for the blank period until you apply for EB20 At risk. Or may not lose.
*Risk of systemic complications after Benefit Year End deadline

② Those who still have PEUC account balance

（ Option 1 ）
EB20 application before Benefit Year End deadline

（ Option 2 ）
Wait for PEUC 11 week extension guidance
*Risk of systemic complications after Benefit Year End deadline

③ Those still waiting for PEUC approval
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Wait for approval first
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Approved
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（ Option 1 ） PEUC 11 week extension application
（ Choice 2 ） EB20 application

④ Those with the first UI account balance still remaining
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Use up current account balance
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Apply for PEUC 11-week extension

That's it, the locals are divided into two groups: those who waited for the PEUC 11-week extension guidance and those who applied for EB20 without waiting. With weekly unemployment benefits directly related to daily living expenses, some people made their choice based on their own financial situation and family situation.

Based on today's official announcement by Governor Ige, concrete guidance may not be available until January or later. I hope this has been somewhat helpful in the roller coaster PEUC and EB20.

• ASA
• 2020/12/28 (Mon) 22:32
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Dear sunset
Thank you for the update. I usually read a lot of your advice.
This is my first comment.

① Those who have already used up their PEUC account balance

（ Option 1 ）
Apply for EB20 before Benefit Year End deadline

（ Option 2 ）
Wait for PEUC 11 week extension guidance
*No guarantee that you will qualify for the PEUC 11 week extension
*If you do not qualify for the PEUC 11 week extension, you risk losing unemployment insurance and $300 per week for the blank period until you apply for EB20. Or may not lose.
*After the Benefit Year End deadline, there is a risk of systemic complications

as you can see, the balance is zero
I decided to apply for EB tomorrow, risk free.

EB will last as long as the unemployment rate does not fall below 5%.
Finally, after the PEUC is extended for 11 weeks, I will apply for a new EB, which means that the period for which I will receive aid will not differ much.
I thought about this.
(Unless the unemployment rate is 5% within 11 weeks of the PEUC extension. \cH000000}
Is this idea incorrect?

Sorry to bother you, but
I would appreciate your advice.

I am not good at English, so I always appreciate your advice very much.

• ASA
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• 2020/12/28 (Mon) 22:52
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Dear sunset
I am adding to #623.
Is the EB 13 weeks a sure thing that I will get at least 13 weeks?
If we fall below 5 percent during that time, is it possible that we will be terminated within 13 weeks?
Sorry for repeating myself.

• sunset
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• 2020/12/29 (Tue) 00:34
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ASA,

"I've decided to go risk-free and apply for EB tomorrow."
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I don't have specific guidance from the UI office, so it's kind of a gamble. applying for EB20 would certainly reduce risk. As per #548 and #557 in this Topic, if you meet the EB20 requirements, I think you have a good chance of passing the screening process.

"EB will last as long as the unemployment rate is below 5%, so if you end up getting a PEUC extension of 11 weeks and then apply for a new EB, the length of time you receive assistance will not be that different. I thought that the time period to receive assistance would not be so different. \I thought that the time period of receiving aid would not be so different if the unemployment rate is 5% within 11 weeks of the PEUC extension. \Is this a wrong idea?
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（ Please let me know if my question is wrong ） EB20 is for 13 weeks and PEUC extension is for 11 weeks, which is 2 weeks difference. Also, if the guidance is officially announced and you are not eligible for the 11-week PEUC extension, it is up to the UI office whether or not the late EB20 will be approved if you apply late. If you are late and your EB20 application is not approved, you will not receive the $300 per week. By the way, the $300 per week is set to be paid from December 27 through the end of March 13.

The advantage of the 11-week PEUC extension is that next to that, you can apply for EB20 unless your unemployment rate falls below 5%. Because of this advantage, locals were unsure of their choice.

"Will I definitely get at least 13 weeks of EB 13 weeks? And if we fall below 5 percent during that time, could we be terminated within 13 weeks?
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You will get 13 weeks, and since the unemployment rate was 14.2% in October, it will be difficult to get below 5% by March unless we get back to Hawaii dramatically before the Corona scare. It is also said that the vaccine will not be available to the general public until the spring or summer of next year. However, with the outbreak of corona variants in the U.K., I am not optimistic yet.

• ASA
• 2020/12/29 (Tue) 01:16
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Mr. Sunset

sorry for the late night.
I appreciate your detailed explanation.

Maybe my interpretation was wrong.

"EB will last as long as the unemployment rate does not fall below 5%, so if you finally get a PEUC extension of 11 weeks and then apply for a new EB, the length of time you receive assistance will not be so different after all. I thought that the time period to receive assistance would not be so different. \I thought that the time period of receiving aid would not be so different if the unemployment rate was 5% within 11 weeks of the PEUC extension. \Is this a wrong idea?
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（ Please tell me if my question is wrong ） EB20 is for 13 weeks and PEUC extension is for 11 weeks, so the difference is 2 weeks.

↑ I thought EB was paid all the way through the 13 weeks until the unemployment rate reaches 5 percent.　
So the payment ends after 13 weeks ？


Also, I saw in English posts that
EB is a State of Hawaii funded program, PEUC is a Max of all programs is 50 weeks so for Hawaii we get normally 26 weeks of regular UI + 13 weeks of 1st PEUC + and That's why you have to choose either EB or 2nd PEUC but not both. All programs end on March 14. What does it mean ？
The Max Benefit you get in Hawaii is 50 weeks total. you can't get both EB and 2nd PEUC, so you have to choose either EB or 2nd PEUC but not both.
All programs expire on March 14 。。。。
Are you sure ？
If this translation is correct, I don't think it makes much difference whether you choose PEUC or EB.
I would be embarrassed if I am totally wrong.

I saw on the news that it is only a matter of time before a mutant species is spotted in Hawaii.
The stress of not having a job, and the stress level against the UI, is half of what it used to be.
I can't wait to get back to work.

• たまき
• 2020/12/29 (Tue) 05:52
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Mr. SUNSET

Thank you for your help.
I have a question.

From #622
"② Those who still have PEUC account balance

（ Option 1 ）
EB20 application before Benefit Year End deadline

（ Option 2 ）
Wait for PEUC 11 week extension guidance
*Risk of systemic complications after Benefit Year End deadline"

I still have a balance on my PEUC until mid January.
The display says YOUR BENEFIT YEAR ENDS Dec 29th.
When I called UI and asked them, they told me to apply for EB20 after I used up my balance, so I was going to apply for it in mid-January when I used up my balance, but should I apply for EB20 today, the 29th, even if I have a balance ？
?
Please do so.

• sunset
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• 2020/12/29 (Tue) 06:08
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ASA,

"I thought EB was supposed to be paid all the way through the 13 weeks until the unemployment rate reaches 5 percent. So you are saying that the payments end after 13 weeks ？"
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It ends after 13 weeks, but UI Director Anne commented that we don't have to worry too much, so if the Hawaii situation doesn't change at all next year, we will take some steps If the Hawaii situation doesn't change at all next year, I think they will do something. It all depends on the Corona situation.

Here is the official announcement from Gov. Ige that says EB20 is 13 weeks. https://labor.hawaii.gov/blog/news/hawaii-activates-federal-state-unemployment- insurance-extended-benefits/

"Also, I saw in your English post, what does this one mean ？ The Max Benefit you get in Hawaii is 50 weeks total, since you can't get both EB and 2nd PEUC. You have to choose one or the other. All programs expire on March 14. 。。。。 Am I correct in ？ If this translation is correct, I don't think it makes much difference whether I choose PEUC or EB."
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Can you please post a link so I can double check who's information is on which site ？ I recall that UI had similar requirements since it is indeed maxed out for 50 weeks total at PUA. It was an error in checking the accuracy of the information I caught. My sincere apologies.

The $300/week, PUA, and PEUC 11-week extension ends March 13, but I could not find any solid information that EB20 ends the same day. I think it would be better to check directly with the UI office. Also, in the official announcement by Gov. Ige, he said 52 weeks （ UI26wks+PEUC13wks+EB13wks ） If you choose to extend PEUC by 11 weeks, you will get 50 weeks （ UI26wks+PEUC13wks+PEUC11wks ）.

Not much difference in timing by 2 weeks, but it depends on what guidance the UI office will officially release. Also, as I said in #568 of this topic, it depends on whether it will remain the interpretation of the team responsible for reading The Second Stimulus Package, or whether the UI office will say "if you have not yet applied for EB20, you can extend your PEUC 11 weeks".

• sunset
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• 2020/12/29 (Tue) 06:18
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Tamaki,

"I still have a balance on my PEUC until mid-January. When I called UI and asked them, I was told to apply for EB20 after using up the balance, so I was going to apply for EB20 in mid-January when I used up the balance, but should I apply for EB20 today, on the 29th, even though I have a balance? I was wondering if there is a process to get the UI office to fix it if the Benefit Year End deadline passes and if there is a systemic complication. I think there is a process to have the UI office fix it if there is a systemic complication. It is up to each of you to decide which option you would prefer.

• ASA
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• 2020/12/29 (Tue) 06:42
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Dear Sunset
Good morning.

"Also, I saw in your English post, what does this one mean ？ The Max Benefit you get in Hawaii is 50 weeks total, you can't get both EB and 2nd PEUC, you have to choose one. All programs expire on March 14. 。。。。 Am I correct in ？ If this translation is correct, I don't think it makes much difference whether you choose PEUC or EB."
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Can you please post a link so I can double check who's information is on which site ？ I recall that UI had similar requirements since it is indeed maxed out for a total of 50 weeks at PUA. It was an error in checking the accuracy of the information I caught. My sincere apologies.

I don't have a link here, but I have a copy.
May I send it to you by e-mail?

• トマト
• 2020/12/29 (Tue) 07:14
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Good morning
If anyone is in the same situation as me, please advise me

I have just finished 13 weeks of PEUC claims, but I still have an extra balance
and my ear-end is next March.

Since about this past Sunday,
when I press here next to the EB20 description,
I get a question asking if I want to wait for Peuc or
EB20.
When should I answer this ？
Should I answer right away in a situation like mine ？ or should I still wait now ？
Please tell me when to answer.

• sunset
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• 2020/12/29 (Tue) 07:58
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ASA,

The site you linked to has a member approval system and we cannot check it. Since we have a limit time today, I think it would be better for ASA to ask the UI office directly if the person's information is correct.

• たまき
• 2020/12/29 (Tue) 08:17
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Sunset
Thank you.

I just called UI and asked if I should apply for EB20 today since I have a balance and my benefits expire today,

"I'm waiting for information, so I can't do anything about PEUC now. Just wait."
So
I asked him if I should ignore the Dec 29 deadline and file this balance,
he said,
"You don't have to do anything" .
Very unprofessional call center person.
I'll call back later and try to attack a different person or just keep filing.

• sunset
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• 2020/12/29 (Tue) 08:18
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Tomato,

The UI Office has not announced a deadline for responses, so at this time, no one can accurately answer Tomato's question. You may want to read the advice from the call center shared by various people on this topic, or ask the UI office directly.

• sunset
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• 2020/12/29 (Tue) 08:24
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Tamaki,

Thanks for sharing the information. The advice from the call center is really disjointed, I think the UI office site is also in a fluster.