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Recruiting at a higher hourly rate and actually paying less

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#1
  • BW
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  • 2023/05/04 10:38

In my recent job search, I see a lot of postings for hourly wages ＄ 17 to 20, etc.

In fact, when I go to interviews, the hourly rate is ＄ 11 or 12, and including Tip, it is usually ＄ 17 to more.
and so on, when you go to the interview.

but when you actually work there, the hourly rate is ＄ 15 or so including tips.

Is this different from what is stated in the job description? ？
Is there a problem if a higher hourly wage is indicated with tips, and the actual wage is lower than that? ？
Is there any problem like this in the restaurant industry where you work ？?

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#2
  • min
  • 2023/05/05 (Fri) 15:11
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I am exactly in the same situation as you, BW.
About 4 months ago, I applied for a job at a bento shop through Vivinavi's job search.
The listing on Vivinavi included tips, roughly $ 15 starts, and I was told the same thing during the interview.

but I was surprised when I entered.
I was paid $ 12.50 per hour and $ 13 with tips.
I think a lot of people are fooled by this.
I guess if you are a server in a restaurant, you can cover it with tips, but this is a lousy company.

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#3
  • さかなくん
  • 2023/05/05 (Fri) 17:22
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I am exactly in the same situation as BW and min.
About 4 months ago, I applied for a job at a lunch shop through Vivinavi's job search.
The listing on Vivinavi was for a driver $ 24 starts and I was told the same thing during the interview.

but I was surprised when I entered.
hourly rate $ 15.
I think a lot of people are fooled by this.

I thought, "This is no good," and
I quit immediately.

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#5
  • min
  • 2023/05/05 (Fri) 22:19
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#GreenCard Mr.

I am not.
I am a Japanese-owned bento shop, but I am not
iyasume.

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#7
  • 怒！！
  • 2023/05/06 (Sat) 02:36
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Me, too.

I got the job after applying through BibiNavi.

I guess they think Japanese people don't sue ….
It is a famous place with a Japanese owner and vice president. Unfortunately, the places that are always hiring are usually the same.

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#10
  • ABCDストア
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  • 2023/05/06 (Sat) 20:58
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Me too.
But I don't think they were posting those prices, after deep thought. I'm sure they didn't think that far ahead. If you post a high hourly rate, people will come to you If you tell them that the real hourly rate is low after they join your company, some will be patient and work for you. But I think it's just that simple, that's the idea.

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#12
  • 田牧米
  • 2023/05/06 (Sat) 22:02
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I think that most of the places that advertise for jobs with hourly rates or super-high salary benefits
are companies that do not value their employees and consider them disposable.
I think that most of the people who work hard and persevere are either elderly or high school students who are just starting their careers. I hope you will read this topic and improve it.

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#13
  • 某ユーザー
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  • 2023/05/08 (Mon) 15:48
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I mean, most Japanese-owned companies are like that.
I've never heard good things about them, and with all due respect,
they remind me of the word "disposable".
Either the hourly rate is right, but the hours are cut, or
the hourly rate is lower than said, and they use it all up.
Oh, and one more thing:
Either you have a boss who tells the boss about things that don't exist or things that are made up.

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#14
  • ロコ
  • 2023/05/08 (Mon) 21:50
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I'm sorry to say this, but the first time I applied for a job with Vivinavi was the only time I was happy with it. ？
Or maybe Hawaii is too expensive and everyone is trying too hard to make money.
A few years ago, the cost of living was better than in Japan, but now it's crazy.
There is no reason for the mind not to go crazy. So if you want to live in Hawaii, you may have to live like a wild man without worrying about money at all.

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#15
  • ワイキキ
  • 2023/05/08 (Mon) 23:03
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It's been a while since I looked at the application, but it was rewritten to start at
$15.

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#17
  • min
  • 2023/05/10 (Wed) 14:19
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#ikaika

where can I find a job with such good conditions ？
I was $ 18 before Corona and I think that is enough, but now I am reluctant $ 13 to work.

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#19

I think it is more important to write the truth than the salary itself ？
If you pay 22 per hour, you will get many applications.
In the way of publication, ？
why don't you publish it here?

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#21
  • 某ユーザー
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  • 2023/05/10 (Wed) 15:46
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I think there must be something else. I think that normally, people would come in droves.

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#22
  • どんぶり
  • 2023/05/10 (Wed) 20:58
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#16
ikaika

Don't tell me you're looking for $22 ！ and then
start working for $15. I hope you're not saying ？ "I'll start at $15 when I start work.

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#23

I have exactly the same experience as you. The job offered was $20 ～ but in reality it was a minimum hourly wage ＋ with tips, and the distribution of tips varied slightly from employee to employee. I quit because I didn't get health insurance even though I worked 20+ hours a week, I didn't get breaks, and I was getting skinnier and skinnier.

So it seems that some of the jobs that advertise high hourly wages are listed with a minimum hourly wage ＋ tip.
And the jobs don't even mention the hourly wage during the training period.

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#27

The job ad did not list an hourly wage or benefits, and when I emailed the company to ask about salary, they did not reply. I would like to know the salary before taking the time to build a resume, but many Japanese companies don't tell me. Why do they hide it or lie about it? I think it is better to avoid such places before you have a bad experience because you might have problems later.

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#28
  • Tako
  • 2023/09/02 (Sat) 09:09
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When that vice president becomes president, the company will tip.

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#31
  • All Bull S
  • 2023/09/05 (Tue) 23:04
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This is my very recent experience.
Japanese president male and Japanese manager female. They are family friends.
They explained and offered high hourly wage in the interview and job advertisement, but in reality, they only pay low salary which is completely different. When I spoke to the president about the salary, he brushed me off. They do not put this in a written contract with the individual, so that they cannot be sued. I would be a fool not to have told them to put that in writing, and be careful of places that use that kind of tactic to prevent you from filling out paperwork to the detriment of the company. They made me do a lot of overwork and then made me fill out a form saying that the overwork would be adjusted by the week, so I didn't get paid for the overwork. The transportation allowance was also a lie. The store of such a fraudulent group is still in S King today.

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#32

It seems that there is a recent trend in Hawaii restaurants.
Some people who want to live in Hawaii ！ want to raise their children in Hawaii ！ said the easiest way to live in Hawaii is to own and operate a restaurant in Hawaii.
I want to create a restaurant that is loved by the locals. The more people who say "I want to build a restaurant that the locals love," or "My employees are my family. The more people who say such stinky lines, the more it seems that they don't pay their employees full time.

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#34
  • 人材ナメンナヨ
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  • 2023/09/08 (Fri) 17:44
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I see here that Japanese companies are still
saying and doing things differently.
They hire cheaply and don't even pay overtime.
In restaurants, even the managers get tips for some reason.
I have heard such stories.
One company is looking for an office clerk and sales person, but
they don't pay for parking, even though they are not in Waikiki.
You can say whatever you want.

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#35
  • コンドる
  • 2023/09/08 (Fri) 20:49
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Too many owners and presidents who can't do their jobs.

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