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• asumi60
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• 2020/12/19 (Sat) 11:20
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I have a question about the last PEUC claming file （ BIWEEKLY ） before applying for EB20.

Please let me know if you have already applied for EB20 or are about to apply for EB20 and have only the first week of PEUC balance in your BIWEEKLY.
If you have experienced the same thing when switching from UI to PEUC, please advise.

I have looked through the past comments in the thread and could not find the same thing. If I have missed something, I apologize.


File the last of the PEUC crimes for last week and this week tomorrow, December 20.
Will aply to EB20 next week after confirming account balance is zero.


Account balance should be 0 at the end of last week for calculation purposes, but I can only enter it with this week's because of BIWEEKLY entries （ Actually tried to enter last week's only first, but could not ）

In this case, I am not sure what to do with the second week （ ） which has no balance left.

[Similar case that went to PEUC after UI ended]
If I help someone I know and leave nothing done about week 2, it will remain pending for that week only after PEUC approval. I didn't enter anything, but DETAILS shows as if it was UNTIMELY entered.

Note that this PENDING week was not included in the allowance benefit period immediately after the PEUC application （ because it was treated as a benefit date ） and could not be entered as PEUC, but when the PEUC approval was granted 8 weeks later, the start date was BACKDATE.
If I had filed it with the first week of UI, would it have been paid after PEUC approval ？

Anyone else have PEUC paid after filing the second week as well without UI balance ？
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I am worried that there is not enough information yet because there are not enough precedents for those who have applied for EB20.
Please help us.

• sunset
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• 2020/12/19 (Sat) 16:28
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Dear asumi60 and Bi-weekly applicants,

EB20 is almost the same pattern as PEUC and I will tell you what I know.

However, since the case share of EB20, which has just started, is very small, there is no absolutely correct answer and you have to proceed by reading and referring to the past patterns of PEUC on your own. If you want to get a definite answer, please ask the UI office directly.

[Account balance should be 0 at the end of last week according to the calculation, but I can only enter it with this week's balance for BIWEEKLY entry （ I actually tried to enter last week's balance first, but could not ） In this case, the second week with no balance remaining （ I am not sure what to do with this week's ） balance.
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There are three options here.

The first way is pattern #206, which is to apply for Claim a certification for 2 weeks at once.

The second method is Caroll's pattern #209 and #210, where you do not apply for Claim a Certification for the second half of the two weeks, but backdate it later and then apply for Claim a Certification for the first half of the two weeks, which is the one where the account balance is insufficient. Certification after backdating.

The third method is pattern #298. → Apply for EB20 → Receive Confirmation number for EB20 application by e-mail → Apply for Claim a Certification for the second half of the week by the deadline. This is the process. The locos have tried this and it seems to have worked. However, some were experiencing system errors （ glitch ） that prevented them from applying for the second half of the week.

Thus there are three ways to go. However, in the subsequent development, this has also split into three different developments. There are cases like #206 that become PROCESSED smoothly, cases like Caroll's that become PROCESSED after having the second half of the week backdated, and cases like Mai's that remain （ #372 ） DISQUALIFIED! I'm just guessing, but in Mai's case This is only a guess, but I feel that in Mai's case a glitch may have occurred.


[If I help someone I know and do nothing about the second week, it will remain pending for that week only after PEUC approval. I didn't enter anything and the DETAILS show as if it was UNTIMELY entered."]
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Claim a Certification application past the deadline must be Reactive a Claim application in advance. Please read #419 for your reference.

The above is all, but like PEUC, EB20 is going to be quite tough. I can see that the locals are working hard while referring to the PEUC pattern. Good luck to all of you. This is the most important thing to be aware of, but I heard that glitches were more likely to occur at PEUC when applying during busy times. Moreover, this glitch affected the subsequent PEUC process, so avoid applying for EB20 during busy times （ especially on Sundays ）. If you see this message when you log in, we recommend that you do not force the application and try to change to a different time.
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• asumi60
• 2020/12/19 (Sat) 20:31
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Dear #441sunset
Thank you very much for your detailed explanation of various examples on how to apply for Claim a Certification in the last week of PEUC in Bi-weekly. It was very helpful.
Also, you listed all the past related posts （ UI cases ） in the topic in one place, which made it easier to see and compare.

It seems that no matter which of the three methods you take, you can't say "nothing is wrong" unless the system improves.
I will have to read and understand each case many more times in the future, but
＃ I feel that filing a Claim a Certification application for two weeks at a time for 206 would be the smoothest way.

Thank you also for the ） notes, such as avoiding （ busy times when applying for EB20.

Finally, I have two questions about how to answer ＃ 354 when applying for EB20. Could you please enlighten us?

8 ） what hours did you work? In English, it seems that you can answer either a day or a week. If there are no units in the input field, which would be better ？

12 ） are you aplying for PENSION ？ are you receiving ？
does it include Japanese pension ？ I am a member of National pension and I have paid the premiums but have not yet received the benefits.

Thank you very much.


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• sunset
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• 2020/12/19 (Sat) 22:21
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asumi60,

It seems that no matter which of the three methods you take, "nothing is wrong" unless the system improves.
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Yes, I agree. Compared to the UI systems in other states where the system automatically proceeds with PEUC and EB20 on behalf of the applicant, the UI system in Hawaii seems to be old and there seems to be no budget to upgrade it, so it can't be helped.


I will have to read and understand each case many times from now on, but it seems to me that ＃ filing a Claim a Certification application for two weeks at a time for 206 would be the smoothest way.
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I don't know which of the three methods is best, but since the call center stopped responding to backdate requests midway through the PEUC season and went the "wait until PEUC approval is granted" route, it might not be a bad idea to take a chance on applying for two weeks at once. It might not be a bad idea to take a chance on applying for two weeks at a time.


（ 8 ） what hours did you work? In English, it seems that you can answer either a day or a week. Which would be better if there were no units in the input field ？ （ #354 on this topic ）
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You are supposed to enter the time you arrived and left work. Part-time workers and those who worked shifts should enter the most frequent work hour pattern.

Time Begin
●hour ●min AM/PM

Time End
●hour ●min AM/PM


（ 12 ） Are you APPLIED to PENSION ？ Are you RECEIVING ？ Does this include Japanese pension ？ I am a member of the National Pension Plan and have paid the premiums, but have not yet received the benefits. （ #354 in this topic ）
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I think you mean US pension, so I don't think Japanese pension is included, but I think the "2020 tax return on unemployment insurance receipt" topic and "on gifts received in Japan I think you should ask tax man who has given valuable advice in the "Tax Application in the US ？" topic （ I hope tax man is aware of this thread ）.

• asumi60
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• 2020/12/20 (Sun) 09:40
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＃ Dear 444sunset
Thank you for the additional advice regarding Bi-weekly's PEUC Claim a Certification application.

I feel much better now that you have clarified the best way to deal with the situation.

I had a hard time with BACK DATE at the start of the very first UI, and I want to avoid repeating that as much as possible. If there is going to be some kind of problem no matter which method is used, it is better to have less hassle afterwards.

Thanks also for the way you answered my question on the EB20 application.
You have cleared up some of the uncertainties and I am no longer worried about the EB20 application.
I will ask Tax man about the pension.

I applied for PEUC's last Bi-weekly Claim a Certification today and will apply for EB20 this week.
I will UPDATE my progress here, so please keep us posted.