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There are times when property taxes double for homeowners ？.

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#1
  • G
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  • 2023/08/01 23:35

It's a bit long.

●My sister and her husband live in a house in my mother's name （ Hawaii ） and claim they paid their own property taxes every month
●For some reason, payment letters come to Japan where my mother lives through 2021 ～ 2022.
●I send one of about 3 letters back from the sender （ maybe the IRS ） I'll return it. （ Maybe last year ）

●Yesterday, my sister sent me a bill for double the amount of taxes I had paid, and she blames me for something I said, but I honestly don't remember
I tell her I think they probably just sent it to Hawaii.

●My friend who lives in a detached house says that she has never heard of taxes going up whether the parents or the children live there
●My sister talked to a lawyer and he said that the taxes will go up unless my mother lives there because it is in her name. She blames me like who told her that.
●I think it's not reasonable to be angry because my mother doesn't actually live there because she was found out ？ I should rather consider myself lucky to have paid less until now. （ This is not as straightforward as it sounds. ）
The point is that he has been filing false tax returns and is worried about whether this could be construed as tax evasion.
●My sister is upset that we are family and she treats people like crimes ？.
●I was just stating the main points of my concern, but it's better for a layman not to say easy things. Please settle the matter with a lawyer. When I told him that I had nothing to do with it and that I had nothing to blame him for, he turned the tables on me.

The exchange on that line is below

09:44 A What did you write when you sent the tax paper back to the city and county in Hawaii, sister ？
09:45 A Our taxes are about to double to $6548. The price went up
09:46 A I asked the office and they said it was because I got a letter from Japan saying my mom doesn't live here
09:46 A They said it was a third party price because she doesn't live here.
09:47 A I can't pay this amount of money ？

13:10 Y sorry. I'm at a conference.
13:11 Y I don't remember anymore. But I think it only said to send it to the Hawaii address.
13:13 Y I don't think I wrote anything about your mother not living in Hawaii or any such details. I think I wrote "please send to Hawaii.

14:03 A Got it. I'll ask the tax office for details. It's kind of weird that it suddenly doubled 🙂
14:03 A It's so expensive, it's ridiculous.

16:33 YYou know, I just talked to HI, and he said he doesn't think the taxes will double because of who lives there. Because there are many people like that in the world.
I was told to ask my accountant for more information, but my friend （ who has a property in Hawaii and lives there now ） told me ？ that asking an accountant might not be enough. Maki-san said he will ask his friend.
16:33 Y I've never heard of taxes going up because people don't live there. Also, it's strange that I suddenly got a form to come to Japan for a few months. Anyway, I will let you know when I hear from my friend.

16:34 A I already talked to Mr. Hi. I'm talking to my lawyer now. It seems that taxes are different depending on who owns and lives in the house.

16:35 Y Let me know if you find out what the lawyer said.

16:35 A It's okay. We'll do it ourselves.

16:35 YOK

16:36 A I asked my lawyer and he said. The amount of taxes will change
16:37 Ay if we find out that mom doesn't live there

16:37 Y There is no proof that she doesn't live there, so if we say she comes and goes ？

16:37 A They already know something

16:37 Y If you checked legal immigration,
16:38 Y you would know, but other than that, you have no evidence.

16:38 A You don't look into one individual, so if they would know, someone would have said ？
16:40 A I would talk to a lawyer about what to do.

16:42 Y Just because someone said it doesn't prove it. But the fact is that they are lying, so you have to ask your lawyer to handle that. I hope the lawyer is a good one.

16:42 A It's not a lie. If it was a family member, they wouldn't think so. ？
16:43 A It's not like you're committing a crime.
16:45 A She said there's no way we're committing a crime for what we've done. We've paid for it, so what do you think


objectively about your mom's belongings ？
I think what my sister is saying is wrong.
In reality, the fact is that my mother does not live in that building, and I think she deserves it because she found out about it. I wonder if the taxes really double for those who live in Hawaii ？.

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#4
  • こーの字
  • 2023/08/02 (Wed) 10:18
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I'm a complete noob, but
I found a detailed property tax calculation at the following link.

I've heard that for a normal single family home, the tax is calculated at the assessed property value x 0.35%.

I guess owner occupied or not is applicable to Home exemption.
They say that if you file a Home exemption, $ 100,000 will be deducted from the assessed property value.
This difference is not that big.

Just not owner occupied （ No home excemption filed ） Property is
Residential A Tax Rate (two tiered) and up to $ 1,000,000 is 0 .45% up to 1,000,000, and $ 1.05% for the amount over 1,000,000.
This is probably applicable this time.

Also, even if the property tax rate remains the same, property taxes should increase if the assessed property value soars.


https://www.hawaiiliving.com/blog/property-taxes-in-honolulu-county-oahu-explained/
https://www. dwellhawaii.com/blog/honolulu-property-tax-guide/
https://realhawaii.co/blog/understanding-oahus-property-taxes#:~:text=(1 )%20Residential%3A%200.35%25,value%20of%20less%20than%20%241%2C000%2C000.

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#5
  • こーの字
  • 2023/08/02 (Wed) 14:01
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By the way, as a rough estimate,
$ 1,000,000 assessed value with home exemption
( $ 1,000,000 - $ 100,000)*0.35% = $ 3,150

With recent home price hikes, the increase from a year ago $ 1,200,000. 1,200,000, which is an increase from the previous assessment, and without the home exemption
$ 1,000,000*0.45% + $ 200,000*1.05% = $ 6,600.

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#6
  • こーの字
  • 2023/08/02 (Wed) 14:07
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The order is backwards.
I have a post before #5 with a URL link, but it is not showing up, so
I'll post it without the link.


I'm a complete novice, but
I found a detailed property tax calculation at the following link.

I heard that for a regular single family home, the tax is calculated as assessed property value x 0.35%.

I guess owner occupied or not is applicable to Home exemption.
They say that if you file a Home exemption, $ 100,000 will be deducted from the assessed property value.
This difference is not that big.

Just not owner occupied （ No home excemption filed ） Property is
Residential A Tax Rate (two tiered) and $ up to 1,000,000 0.45% for up to 1,000,000 and 1.05% for $ 1,000,000 excess.
This is probably the case this time.

Also, even if the property tax rate remains the same, property taxes should increase if the assessed property value soars.

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#7
  • Ken
  • 2023/08/02 (Wed) 16:01
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Your questioner （ G. ） is correct.　Your sister is incorrect.
As stated on the following website, beginning in FY 2023, the tax rate is higher for property that is not used by the owner as a primary residence.
Therefore, it is very possible that property taxes will double.
Please take the time to read the following website for a better understanding.

https://realhawaii.co/blog/understanding-oahus-property-taxes#:~:text=(1)%20Residential%3A%200.35%25,value%20of%20 less%20than%20%241%2C000%2C000.

If you do not live there, the category is "Residential A".
It will be partially tacked on from the website.

The Residential A Honolulu Property Tax Rate applies to properties where an owner doesn't claim the home exemption and the

An example of the Honolulu Residential A property tax rate:

A 50- year-old woman has a $ 1,000,000 units. Since this is her second home, she does not have an exemption. The estimated annual taxes up to $ 1,000,000 are $ 4,500 ($ 1,000,000 x 0.0045), and the yearly property taxes above $ 1,000, 000 000 are $ 6,300 ($ 600,000 x 0.0105). Therefore the total taxes for her second property are $ 10,800 per year ( $ 6,300 + $ 4,500).

You will be asked for proof of residency or non-residency.　See below.

You may prove that the home is your primary residence by filling out a form and showing evidence that you are registered to vote in Honolulu, and file an income tax return as a State of Hawaii resident, or occupy the home 270 days or more each calendar year.

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#8

#G is right.

Our situation is a little different, but our taxes are higher.
Almost double.

Your sister is asking her lawyer, so it should have been explained to her, and it is not reasonable to blame Mr. G.

My parents used to come and go,
but I once thought ？
that the immigration records would automatically tell whether they lived in Japan or Hawaii.

~~16:37 Y There is no proof that you don't live here, so if you say you come and go ？ ~~

you can provide proof of residence.
Passports in and out of the country are easily checked by the government.

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#9
  • MAG
  • 2023/08/05 (Sat) 21:37
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A friend of mine had a similar situation, but after consulting with a lawyer, it seems that there are various loopholes, so why don't you leave it to the lawyer's judgment?

But the contractor himself doesn't actually live there ？ If that's the case, I don't think your sister has the right to blame anyone.

As stated above, you lied on your tax return. ？ I think it is wrong to blame others for the increase in taxes. I think you got what you deserved. The best thing to do is to stay out of it. I'm sorry I can't be of more help. However, in this day and age, there is no doubt that taxes are skyrocketing everywhere.
Unfortunately.

However, as ＃ 4kouji said, the price of houses in Hawaii is going up so much that it is inevitable
for homeowners to have to pay higher taxes every year ？ if you don't want to pay taxes, just lease. If you don't want to pay taxes, just live in a lease.
We also sold our house and live in a lease.

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