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We strongly urge a remedy to the [December 28 discrepancy] that falls between PEUC2 and the EB20 application.

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#1
  • inquiry
  • 2021/02/05 09:14


If you have applied for EB20 on December 29th because the deadline of the first PEUC was December 29th, 2020

you did not receive a phone call from UI OFFICE to confirm your PEUC2 or EB20 choice
UI OFFICE did not respond to your PEUC2 cancellation Email that you sent to UI OFFICE UI OFFICE did not respond to your PEUC2 cancellation Email and ignored it.
UI OFFICE did not respond to my PEUC2 cancellation email UI OFFICE did not cancel my EB20 application even though I finally got a call from them
I can't even do SURVEY on UI HOME PAGE
Even if you clearly expressed to the UI OFFICE that you want to cancel EB20 and select PEUC2,
you can only select EB20 because the UI OFFICE is only following the FEDERAL rules

You can not select PEUC2 without any reason. The above is an unreasonable situation.
Furthermore, in February, you automatically received a series of benefit documents from the UI OFFICE that passed your EB20 application
Many of you think that you have no choice but to accept EB2 or already had no choice but to accept it.
If you have no other choice but to accept EB20 because of the UI OFFICE's failure to leave the December 29th deadline, which should have been extended promptly,
and its stubbornness to accept changes only for those who have until December 28th,
then you have no other choice but to accept EB20. （ The real problem is that we have no choice but to do so ）,
Only those whose EB20 13-week payment ends before the March 13th deadline can apply back to PEUC2, and
if the payment ends after that date, they cannot apply for PEUC2 at this time If the end of payment is after that date, you cannot apply for PEUC2 at this time. In other words, THE END.
Even if the corona disaster continues and unemployment continues, no further measures have been announced at this time.

For those who applied for EB20 on December 29, 2020, and whose 13 weeks of EB20 payments will end after March 13, 2021,
unless some sort of relief is issued, not only will there be an undeniable sense of unfairness, but there is also a risk of major disruption to their lives.
We will strongly urge for a remedy.

We strongly hope that everyone who is not satisfied with the unreasonable response will take some kind of remedy, and
we hope that everyone will share their opinions.
We would also appreciate the support and cooperation of SUNSET and COVID － who are familiar with unemployment insurance in the 19's.
We would be very grateful if you could help us.

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#2
  • inquiry
  • 2021/02/05 (Fri) 09:24
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The first 13 weeks of PEUC payments ended on December 19, and we waited until just before December 29, which was indicated as the YEAR END deadline
What did Maruko and Lily do if you applied for EB20 on December 29, ？ or what are your plans ？?
We are thinking that the reality is that we have no choice but to move to EB20 for now.

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#3

Inquiry,

The responsible team and I strongly recommend that you consult with an attorney from the Legal Aid organization. The response from the attorney will be different, as the UI office will be able to respond more quickly. Of course, it is up to the attorney to make a final decision on the specific steps to be taken, but we recommend that you gather all the evidence you can so that you are ready to submit it at any time. Although key members went to MediaNews and complained about all the problems that are currently occurring, the UI office said, "We will upgrade the UI system. It will take 18 months to finish the upgrade." However, the UI office has not shown any sign of providing any relief to those who applied for EB20 on the 29th. So, we recommend you to consult with the Legal Aid organization. I have also contacted them, but I have not received any response, perhaps because I am not the party who applied for EB20.

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#4
  • inquiry
  • 2021/02/06 (Sat) 11:48
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Dear SUNSET,

Thank you very much for your kind and heartfelt comments. I appreciate it from the bottom of my heart.

We have been discussing this with our friends who, like us, received the EB20 approval letter after being unable to cancel （ EB20 ） and move to PEUC2 .
and the UI OFFICE's attitude of stubbornly not listening to us and saying we have no choice but to follow the FEDERAL ORDER,
still making statements that it will be about 18 months before all computer systems will be updated, etc., etc. Rather than wait for
a clear answer from UI, we decided to face reality and accept EB20 once, although it was not our intention.
We decided to focus on the future as a hopeful remedy that came out of our decision.
Looking ahead, if you are still unemployed related to the COVID19 pandemic after the final EB20 payments end after March 13,
some form of relief （ such as an extension of the deadline to return to PEUC2, which is currently the March 13 application deadline, or an extension of EB20. ） or an extension of the EB20
would be strongly encouraged.
I wonder if the team responsible for LOCAL, which is working with Mr. SUNSET, has also expressed some opinions about looking ahead and considering remedies ？ .

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#5

Inquiry,

Getting the media to play along and explaining directly to the UI office officials everything that is currently happening is the best the responsible team and I can do at this point. We are also very frustrated that we are not able to do more. And it is up to the UI office to come up with something and we are praying very strongly that the federal government will add a program like the PEUC 11-week program. I have a suggestion: why don't you and your friends mail a signed letter of direct appeal to Anne, the UI director, asking her to come up with some kind of remedy. You could also mail a letter to the federal government explaining the unemployment situation in Hawaii, which is dominated by tourism, to Governor Ige, and to your local legislators （ If they have already made the first move, please let it go ）.

I still think it would be more persuasive to convey the message from the parties involved rather than the team responsible and myself speaking for them.

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#6

For those of you who have used up your PEUC 13-week extended account balance prior to December 26 and have applied for EB20 after December 29 and wish to cancel,

the responsible team has shared this with us and we will share it with you ASAP.

Several people have been able to get the call center to cancel their EB20. Perhaps the UI office has expanded the scope of EB20 cancellation eligibility.

If you started filing weekly after the EB20 balance was added to your account balance and it has already been deposited, it is possible that they will not accept the cancellation, but those who have not yet deposited any EB20 should not file weekly and contact the call If you have not yet received any EB20 minutes, please do not file weekly and contact the call center.

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#7
  • フラミンゴ
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  • 2021/02/17 (Wed) 11:50
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I finally got through to the call center today and offered to cancel my EB20, but they made a point of telling me that it could not be cancelled.

I used up my PEUC on December 19 and numbly applied for EB20 on January 5, not really understanding the PEUC extension. I soon realized that I made a mistake and offered to cancel the next day, but was told that I could still use the PEUC extension after using up my EB20 and that there was no need to cancel.

I asked him about that again today and he told me that I would not get any more PEUC because PEUC ends on March 13 and you will get EB20 until March 20.

By the way, my EB20 says that I have applied, but it is still under review and I cannot file. I did not receive a Confirmation Email when I applied.

I think there was a Survey a while ago to select PEUC or EB20, but I did not receive that Email either. There was a time when there was a Survey icon on the system, so I clicked on that, but it was not eligible and I could not do anything.

I mentioned this to the call center today, but they didn't even know there was a Survey and said that I shouldn't have received an Email from them.

I am going to call the call center again and try to talk to a different person, but my heart is slightly broken. It really bothers me that different reps say different things. 、、、、

If anyone has any advice, please let me know. Thanks in advance.

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#8

Flamingo,

The call center staff has been varied before, so don't worry if they give you the cold shoulder. Some staff members are friendly and helpful, so please try to attack other staff members.

According to the responsible team, some people have been able to cancel, so please try until the end.

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#9
  • フラミンゴ
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  • 2021/02/18 (Thu) 06:17
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Sunset

Thank you for your advice. It gave me some hope ！ I will call again ！ ！

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#10
  • co2
  • 2021/02/18 (Thu) 15:34
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Mr. Inquiry

My situation.
PEUC expired on 12/19 and I applied for EB20 on 12/23.

The following two are in the same situation.

◎ No call from UI OFFICE to confirm PEUC2or EB20 selection
◎ Cannot even SURVEY UI HOME PAGE



PEUC expired on 12/19 and EB I applied for 20. I haven't received any mail, email, or phone call from UI since then, and was given no options at the end of Jan.
Since the time I applied for EB20, and as of now, I am still getting the message "Your application has been submitted and will be reviewed. this review will take at least 14 business days. you will be You will be mailed a notice on the outcome of your application.
I have been trying to call to cancel my EB20 for the last month and have not been able to get through, and when I finally did last week, the person who answered the phone said, "You are on the second PEUC waiting list, so please be patient." I was like, "You are waiting for the second PEUC.
When I asked if I applied for EB20 and didn't have to cancel, he said [I'm on the waiting list for the second PEUC]. So I took him at his word and thought I was in the first round group this time and have been logging into the website since Tuesday morning in anticipation, but unfortunately my balance has not increased today.
I am getting quite worried. I'm getting very anxious, and I'm stressed out again, thinking if I'm in a state of Stuck...

I can't really say as it sounds like we are in the same situation, but we are not.
We both wish you the best and hope you progress quickly. I will report back if there is any change in the situation.

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#11
  • inquiry
  • 2021/02/27 (Sat) 17:57
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Dear SUNSET, Flamingo, and co2

Thank you for sharing your comments. We were working on various things, including calling and emailing the UI office with friends who had unavoidably decided to accept EB20 under the same circumstances involved in the December 28 discrepancy.
In our case, even when we spoke to the UI telephone answering manager on the phone
"You have met the requirements for EB20 and your name is already on the list of people eligible for EB20 payments, so you absolutely cannot change to PEUC2 and you should FILE as EB20."
"You have already cleared the conditions of EB20 and your name is already on the list of people eligible for EB20, so you cannot change your name to PEUC2. The other day, when I logged into my UI page, I suddenly noticed that my MAXIMUM BENEFIT AMOUNT had changed and calculated
that the amount had increased by exactly 11 weeks of my current WBA.
And although the current payment is EB20, I received a REVISED letter from the UI office today and checked the COMMENT and found that
YOU ARE CURRENTLY FILING A CLAIM UNDER THE PANDEMIC EMERGENCY UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION.
We have talked with our friends, and we believe that the UI side felt the great movement of people like us who are parties to the December 28th contradiction, who probably raised their voices and made appeals.
And most of all, we would like to thank SUNSET and the team responsible for LOCAL for their hard work in taking action.
We were very anxious about what would happen after EB20 was over, and were seriously considering sending an opinion to the WHITE HOUSE to help them understand [the unique situation of the state of Hawaii, a state that depends on the tourism industry].
I have heard that there will be a discussion in the Honolulu Star Advertiser on March 5, and as I have written before, I hope that the situation will be fair ・ to all, and that everyone will be satisfied.
And I hope that you will come up with a solution as soon as possible, not at the last minute, so that there will be no worries after PEUC2 and EB20 are over.

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#12

Mr. Inquiry,

I am so glad that you were able to switch to the PEUC 11 week extension ！ I have been concerned about you and others who applied for EB20 on December 29.

The backlash from applicants, including locals, about the unreasonable rules due to the ineptitude of the old UI system is growing by the day, and the UI office must have reconsidered. I guess it depends on the discussions in Congress about unemployment insurance in the future. You might want to check the Congressional News daily.

Once again, I am relieved. I will share this with the responsible team and key members.

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#13
  • inquiry
  • 2021/02/28 (Sun) 11:14
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Mr. SUNSET

We are very grateful to you for taking the time to consider our situation.

We, like you, were forced to apply for EB20 at the last minute on December 29, 2020 because the EB20 was set to expire on December 29, 2020, and
the UI office stubbornly told us that we cannot cancel the EB20 and cannot change to PEUC2.
and as someone who had already started receiving EB20 as an EB20 eligible person,
I had no choice but to accept it.
However, I had given up on the idea of changing to PEUC2 if I had already received my EB20 payment,
and was thinking of focusing on （ the current situation where the EB20 payment will end in March and what will happen after that ） so
I am very surprised at this abrupt response. I am very surprised at this sudden response.
Small objections and opinions from each and every one of us. I have learned firsthand that the small objections and opinions of each individual, when aggregated together, can become a large vortex
that can overturn or improve a decision.
Each person's situation may vary, but I think it is very important to try what you can do first without giving up and leaving it to others.

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#14

The small objections and opinions of each and every one of us," he said. However, I was able to learn firsthand that when these opinions are gathered together to form a large vortex, decisions can be overturned or improved. Each person's situation is different, but I think it is very important not to give up and leave things to others, but to try to do what you can do first."

I agree with you exactly. This is America, and there is no need to put up with unreasonable things, and it is important for each and every one of us to speak up more and more.

You must have been very anxious and worried
about this matter.
Please rest for a while.

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#16
  • inquiry
  • 2021/03/01 (Mon) 11:05
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Dear SUNSET,

Thank you all for your warm messages of
exertion, even though you yourself have been working energetically.

I did what I could do with the right [no good, hit it and break it ！].
I told myself that even if this didn't work, I could give up without regret because I had done everything I could.
And, above all, I imagined that people in similar situations would not remain silent if no remedies were found
In a sense, I was thinking without pessimism, even though I was not optimistic, and
I knew that there were many people in even more difficult situations than my own, and that I would not be able to help them. I was also thinking about the many people who are in predicaments.
If you know of anyone who has been or is about to be broken by anxiety or worry,
please continue to appeal by phone, letter, email, etc. … by any means you can, and don't give up.
Even if the matter is not resolved immediately, it will be kept as a record and will be useful as evidence that you have appealed this much in case something happens.
Also, every time I read in the LOCAL NEWS about people whose unemployment insurance is still PENDING and has not been paid,
it really makes my heart ache.

Please take care of yourself, SUNSET, you are the one who is willing to work so hard.

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#17

Thank you, Inquiry.

Every time we have a meeting to share the issues that are happening in our group with the loco group, I say, "It's a roller coaster what the DLIR （ UI office ） does. We all need to buckle up tight" lol. I really thought that was the best way to put it.

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#18
  • T.S
  • 2021/03/03 (Wed) 07:39
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Mr. Inquiry

I am in the exact same situation as Mr. Inquiry, and I am still in the exact same situation, but there has been no progress.
I wonder if you have made any progress since then ？.

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#21
  • inquiry
  • 2021/03/03 (Wed) 12:54
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Dear SUNSET

You are exactly right.
You need a seat belt, and a very strong one at that.

Dear TS

Please read our comments carefully, especially ＃ 11 and ＃ 13.
I hope it will be of some help to you, Mr. TS.

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#23
  • Lily
  • 2021/03/04 (Thu) 17:24
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Dear Sunset

Thank you for your continued support.
This time EB will end on 3/6 and will be transferred to PEUC 11 weeks, does it mean that I can receive 11 weeks (until 6/5) ？
or does it mean that it will end on 4/10, the last day of the year ？
Benefit year end is 3/21 Is there an extension? Does it mean that there will be an extension of the due date ？
Sorry for the basic question, but please help me.
Thank you.

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#24

Lily,

The 11-week PEUC extension is until the April 10 deadline, as long as it does not exceed 24 weeks combined with the 13 weeks of PEUC. This rule was decided by the federal government, i.e., Congress, not the Hawaii government. Even if you have an account balance, it would not be paid after April 11.

It is up to Congress to decide if a new unemployment program will be added after the 11 weeks of PEUC, and it is also up to Congress to decide what the Benefit Year End deadline rule will be.

You should always check Congress News.

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#25
  • Lily
  • 2021/03/04 (Thu) 20:23
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Dear Sunset
Thank you for taking the time to reply.
Many people have been helped by your accurate advice. Thank you very much.

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