Vivinavi : Hawaii : (United States) Hawaii

• 日本人
• 2022/07/22 (Fri) 17:11
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There are Americans
not only Japanese.

• Orchid7
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• 2022/07/22 (Fri) 17:58
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I understand the pain of being ostracized. I have had several experiences of being ostracized not only by Japanese but also by local people in the workplace. I was the only one in my department who was not from the local area.
The women graduated from the local high school ・ university, had relatives or friends in common, and I could not keep up with them because of the unique local food culture and conversations in local slang. I tried my best to stay in the circle, but if one person in the group was stubborn and would not accept me, the others would follow his/her lead and exclude me from the group. It was bullying. When there was only one local woman in the group, we could have fun talking to each other, but when the group grew to two or three, we were again ostracized because our conversations were intercepted. Some had Japanese-American grandfathers or parents, and some had Japanese-American surnames, but none of them had ever been to Japan and were completely American. I wonder why...maybe it is the unique culture of island countries, not only Japanese people. Non-Japanese women in the Mainland who moved here a few years ago also told me about their experiences of being ostracized by the local people. Not only at work, but also in the community where they live. I know of families who have moved away because they couldn't take it anymore. I know that bullying and ostracism are common among non-Japanese as well, but I can understand why they feel that they can't get along better with other Japanese people. I have come to the conclusion that the cause of the problem is not me, but the people who don't let me join their group, so I don't have to worry about it. I still feel sad about it, though.　As a result, I am getting along well with other women who have gone through the same thing, transcending racial barriers.

• アイ
• 2022/07/22 (Fri) 22:25
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It is not only Japanese. Even among Americans, there are some.

I have a husband from Hawaii, and he, his friends, and everyone around him are mostly white haters first.

But Japanese bullying is unique. It's not only in the workplace, but also among my mom's friends.
My friend A and my friend B got to know each other because of me, but they play without me without inviting me, and they complain behind my back while pretending to be friendly with my friends.
Do you usually play with other people's friends ？ 😅

I don't know.
Relationships are droll and tiring.
It's very hard to find people you feel comfortable with. I am also tired of relationships in Hawaii.
So I understand how you feel.
You have to think, "Let the idiots go and move on ！ but sometimes it's difficult.

• それでもハワイが好き
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• 2022/07/27 (Wed) 18:32
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No, no, no, I can't stand to see or hear the lies and harassment in Japanese society
more than local harassment.
They want to form a faction, or a group ！ ？ of friends.
If you can't say a single bad thing about your husband, you tend to be excluded from the faction, and
there is a tendency that you have to target someone else.
In fact, I personally have experienced the same thing.
It was a Japanese company in Waikiki.
I am also Japanese, but
I never want to work for a Japanese company again.
If I had stayed in that company, I would have had a lot of gray hair.
I was worried until I quit, but once I quit, how easy it was.

If you are suffering from mean Japanese now.
It takes courage to leave, but once you do, how easy it is.
Also, don't tell Japanese people in Hawaii about yourself.
That's why they ask so many questions as soon as they get to know you.
Many of them are also characterized by their tendency to lie and talk out of their mouths.
Please be careful and enjoy your life in Hawaii ！.

• zebra
• 2022/07/28 (Thu) 12:39
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I live in Hawaii.
Even in Japan, there are people who are mean and have bad personalities,
but I thought that the difference between the rich and the poor in Hawaii is more severe than in Japan.

In Japan, almost everyone lives in a regular house, a regular apartment, or a regular apartment
.

In Hawaii, some people own luxurious, spacious single-family homes or luxury condos
while others live in
walk-up, old, non-secure rental apartments
and have no cars.

Such disparity was not in Japan.

I felt
that the difference between those who have found a way to earn money to survive in Hawaii with its high cost of living and those who have not
is due to jealousy and envy.

I think that if all people were mentally, physically, and financially
able, bullying and meanness would not occur.

• Aloha
• 2022/07/29 (Fri) 00:03
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I felt that the very conversation that is going on here represents the nature of the Japanese people. \ \cH0000002}

• zebra
• 2022/07/29 (Fri) 09:02
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#10 Aloha

I think the same thing
is happening to all races, not just Japanese.

We are the same Japanese, so it must just bother you or be in your ears.
I think Americans and Chinese have more disparity, wealth gap than us Japanese.

• Mahalo
• 2022/07/29 (Fri) 11:35
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One vote for Aloha ！.

• 訴訟
• 2022/08/19 (Fri) 20:52
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When I first came to Hawaii on vacation, I felt that Japanese people in Hawaii live off Japanese people, and since then I have lived my life trying not to get involved with Japanese people living in Hawaii.

There are many good people who work among the locals, even if they are also Japanese.

Some Americans and locals are also fucking mean, but it doesn't bother me too much because everyone is an individual player.

If you are being bullied by the entire company, keep a record and sue. If you have a good lawyer on your side, you might get a few hundred million dollars.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/37619986/jury-awards-former-queens-nurse-38-million-in-racial-discrimination-lawsuit/?outputType=amp

• COCO
• 2022/08/20 (Sat) 23:00
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This is a small island, so sometimes I bump into people I don't like, and I don't like that either.

The day before, I met someone I didn't like, so I greeted her as a minimum manner, but she didn't answer me.
Some women can't even greet you back if you greet them in the least manner. I just hope I don't encounter people I don't like in small Hawaii.

• zebra
• 2022/08/22 (Mon) 13:45
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I don't know if this is the equivalent of a mean Japanese person.

This was my first experience in Hawaii.

Mr. A wanted to divorce me, but he didn't because he is not financially independent.

I don't know if that was the reason, but I thought

she had completely gone back to Japan because we had been getting along well, but suddenly we lost contact. But Hawaii is a small place, so we bumped into each other by chance. We had a normal conversation.

But after that, we lost contact.

Is it because he is mentally weak or is he manic-depressive? Is he jealous because I seem happy? Is this attitude because you are not happy? I have never met people like this in Japan

so I am quite surprised.　

Have you also had this experience ？?

• チョコ
• 2022/08/22 (Mon) 15:54
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Zebra

I had someone like that

It's strange that you were so close and then suddenly you lost touch. There are probably a lot of mentally unstable women in Hawaii.
I have the same experience, so I understand.

People who don't get along with their husbands may have something in particular.
I know someone who hates her husband and is so mean to him that she won't even let his parents see their grandchildren.
On the contrary, I am lucky that he left me alone.

• zebra
• 2022/08/22 (Mon) 19:12
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#16 Choco

Thank you very much for your experience.

Yes, I agree.

I want her to be happy and I hope she can get divorced soon so she can be independent and live on her own.

There is nothing worse than living with someone who no longer loves you.

I hope you meet someone wonderful before you are old enough to be called a grandmother.

Don't get a divorce for your mother's sake, but live your life without regrets.

• HI
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• 2022/08/23 (Tue) 15:48
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On this island, friends are always fluctuating.
Many Japanese-American women in the U.S. are winsome, so
they are clear that if they have a negative element, they will leave others,
otherwise they will go out with them.
It is easy and good to go out with people you meet from time to time.

• zebra
• 2022/08/23 (Tue) 16:25
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A woman I knew in Hawaii died of cancer a few years ago, even though she was only in her fifties.

I could only think that it was a disaster for her to be so patient.

If you feel stressed, get a divorce or have fun with friends. I regretted that something could not have been done earlier.

Life seemed long and short to her.

I hope this friend, whom I met in passing, moves on quickly so that it doesn't happen.

Mr. HI
Why is it that if there is a negative element, they will leave the others ？
Maybe they are too proud ？
If you can't be open minded, you will get what you deserve.
It may be easy to be comfortable with people you meet from time to time, but
it's like a superficial relationship, and it's lonely.

• HI
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• 2022/08/23 (Tue) 18:39
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>>zebra

I envy you Lord for having friends who are not just upper class
and who don't mind the details.
Unfortunately, I am not blessed with friends on this island,
and I have never encountered a friend
who could keep a "don't tell" policy, which is common among women.
So, I keep my relationship with them without giving details.
It's easier later on and I don't get caught up in the "she heard it too". It sounds lonely, but I feel that in Hawaii, where it is a small island and someone is connected to someone somewhere, it is a good idea.

I feel a difficulty in socializing that I did not feel in Japan.
I am sure there are a lot of people with free time in Hawaii.

• HonoluluWaikiki
• 2022/08/23 (Tue) 20:27
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It is not only Japanese, but there are some.

I think you should avoid such people.

I don't like Japanese society, so I stay away from them.
My surroundings are mostly LOCOs or Filipinos.

• 空
• 2022/08/23 (Tue) 23:11
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Hawaii is a small state, so it seems to me that there is a high level of isolation from strange Japanese people. One of the women around me gave birth to her second child at home in the water because she was dissatisfied with the hospital delivery of her first child. She told me that if she gave birth in a hospital, she would be put into a system that suited the hospital or given an intravenous drip that she did not understand, so she talked about spiritual underwater birth instead of hospital birth. There are many people on this island who force their opinions on others and are like rat race.

• Q
• 2022/08/24 (Wed) 09:53
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I sympathize with Sky. Doterra of essential oils is persistent. I'm getting off track with the mean Japanese, though.
I don't know where they are connected to anyone, so I have trouble saying no strongly enough.

• zebra
• 2022/08/24 (Wed) 12:47
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I think Japanese people living abroad, not only in Hawaii, are unique.

Doterra is a favorite.

Everyone's tastes are different, so whether it's childbirth or network business,

you should adopt whichever you like.

I will listen once, but if I am not interested, I will clearly decline.

• Q
• 2022/08/24 (Wed) 13:16
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The person who recommends my doterra sometimes invites me to do something, but I always end up talking about doterra in the end. This time, I will clearly say that I think Doterra's products are good, but I will never become a member.

• HI
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• 2022/08/25 (Thu) 11:03
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Lately, there are many people who are naturalists
and that's good, but
there are many people who are under a lot of pressure to encourage it.
I get tired just listening to them.
I don't enjoy eating with people who are
too fake stoic.
I wasn't like that before.
I sometimes get sick of excesse, aroma oil, natural items, and food
.

• ココメロン
• 2022/08/25 (Thu) 16:12
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HI

There are so many people who think Hawaiian, spiritual and naturalistic. I am not interested in either, and I agree with HI-san.
It can't be helped that everyone has a different way of thinking, but the rate of Japanese people in Hawaii is much higher than that of Japanese people living in Japan, and I get tired every time I hear them
They talk about coloring, additives, and only giving healthy snacks for kids. They say that they only give their kids organic snacks, bananas, apples, and fruits, and never give them chocolate. I'm very careful.

• 共感
• 2022/08/26 (Fri) 12:12
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Rodin and........ I've been invited many times because
it's the first time I've been to Japan
and I'm not sure how many times I've been asked to go.
They intentionally lure you in with parties that look luxurious
They make it look friendly, but in fact it's a bit of a mess.
I wonder
if they don't have to be in it, they should be able to get along
with someone who is not conscious of their own interests
and who can get along well with them.

• HI
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• 2022/08/28 (Sun) 08:15
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>>Mr. Cocomelon, I sympathize with you
I have the same experience
so I read it with a big nod of my head.
I really sympathized with you.
Thank you very much.

• ぽの
• 2022/09/02 (Fri) 23:44
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>>#24 Doterra(MLM Business) was warned by the FDA, wasn't it? If you look it up, you will find it in one shot. A friend of mine said that other mommy friends were brainwashed by doterra and that she was in danger too.

Elsewhere, there is a private aroma oil seller in Hawaii who sells spiritual beauty products ？ that are powered by Hawaiian sunlight and say that the vibrations … are good, and I thought it would be nice if they sold them normally.
Of course, it's up to the individual.

Let us watch the MLM business from the sidelines.

• ぽの
• 2022/09/03 (Sat) 00:06
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I met my first mean person at work. Like Topy, I was left out of the group.
I was working diligently and hard, but suddenly he stopped talking to me properly one way or the other, and I could no longer communicate with him, not even to communicate what was necessary for work. His attitude changes depending on his mood that day. The other employees noticed it and warned him about his attitude, but he didn't seem to improve.
I realized once again that human nature is important in a workplace where teamwork is required, and I left early for the first time because I was not suited for the job and the manager had no management skills. I was left out of the group, but I managed to spend my time with them by separating myself from them and saying that they introduced themselves to my humanity. People have their own habits, but I keep my distance from people with big attitudes and big mouths, such as self-proclaimed local Japanese, Japanese who have been immigrants for "a little" longer, people with various connections, etc.

• あおナビ
• 2022/09/06 (Tue) 23:32
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Aloha
＞ As I was looking at it, I felt that your conversation itself that is going on here represents the nature of Japanese people.

I've exchanged contact information with someone I got to know through a friend without involving that person
many times in my life ． ． ． was this wrong … ( ; ∀ ;\1863>)

• ビビっと
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• 2022/09/07 (Wed) 20:17
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As the title says,
Japanese-only workplaces in Hawaii
always have a mean person like the owner
and the rest are made up of people who don't disobey.
I worked many jobs, but
all the Japanese-only workplaces were the same.
Everyone turns a blind eye so as not to bring fire down on themselves.
It seems like they are always looking for people to work.