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Receiving unemployment insurance and working as a sole proprietor

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#1
  • Sandy
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  • 2020/12/06 18:02

I am currently receiving unemployment insurance.

I'm not sure who to ask for a clear answer, but would you report the amount of sole proprietorship income you received while receiving unemployment insurance as the answer to the following question in the Weekly Certification? ？

Did you receive residual pay, commissions or other deductible income such as bonuses, or back pay? Employer （ There is some confusion as to whether you should enter income received from an employer ） with whom you have an employment relationship, or whether you should enter any form of income at all.

Please let me know if anyone can help me understand.

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#2

Sandy,

It seems that UI, which is essentially for employees, is very careful in reviewing all sole proprietorships, both unemployed and newly started.

If you enter it as is, the UI office may mistake it as income from an employment company rather than a sole proprietorship, which could complicate the correction and prolong the PENDING process. If people around you give different advice, it is safe to ask the UI office directly about the correct arrangements for Sandy's case before entering the information.

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#3
  • Sandy
  • 2020/12/08 (Tue) 21:45
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Sunset

Thank you for your advice as before.
It is hard to get through to the UI office, but I will try my best to contact them.

By the way, I applied for PEUC at the beginning of November, but I didn't know that I needed to Reactivate the Claim, and maybe that's why I Reactivated it about 3 weeks after the PEUC application, but there is no sign of it being Processed at all ・. ・ ・ .

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#4

Sandy,

The Reactivate a Claim application is due the Sunday through Saturday following the week of the change date. Please see the "PEUC Unemployment Insurance 13-Week Extension Program" topic for a description of the arrangements for future reference.

Waiting for PEUC approval can take some time, but it sounds like you should contact the UI office anyway, and we wish you a speedy approval.

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#5

Sunset, I called UI today and to my surprise it connected on the second try and I was able to speak with the call center staff.
"I don't see anything wrong with my PEUC, so all I can say is wait and see, the Examiner may or may not contact you. The Examiner may or may not contact me, and I don't know how long I'll have to wait."
I am relieved to hear that they can't find any problems for now.

I also asked about private business ・ ・ ・ but apparently either my English was a problem or the staff did not understand me very well, because they said, "When you submit your next Weekly Certification, you will be asked to register as New Employer when I submit my next Weekly Certification".
My sole proprietorship has been a side job for years, so I am not a New Employer, and it is a mystery to me how I can register myself as an employer as a New Employer in the first place.
I said again, "I'm a sole proprietor, I'm not employed," and was told that I could give them a report as a Self employer and report my income.
I will call again next time and ask.

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#6

Sandy,

The first thing I would recommend is to keep your UI account open on your computer and ask the UI office staff on the phone how to enter the Claim a Certification application. If you are told that you also need to file a Reactivate a Claim application, please ask about that step as well while keeping your UI account open on the computer. If you are a sole proprietorship, you should also check to see if there is anything to submit.

As far as I know, both the Claim a Certification application and the Reactivate a Claim application were supposed to be entered for employees, and I don't recall seeing any entry points for sole proprietors.

The reason for the change of status also has "Still Employed", but I think the nuance is for employees, not for sole proprietors.

If the advice from the temporary staff seems suspicious, request that the Examiner check with them before the deadline date to submit the Claim a Certification application and call you back.

I don't know if the call center will respond to a request for a return call, as they are changing their methods a bit these days, and some of their temporary staff have their own quirks, but don't proceed with ambiguity until you know exactly what the correct arrangements are.

I wish you luck in getting this resolved quickly.

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#7
  • Sandy
  • 2020/12/20 (Sun) 15:01
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Suset, I would be happy to email you as the content contains personal details. I apologize for your busy schedule, but I would appreciate it if you could let me know when you have a moment.

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#8

Sandy,

Thank you for your email.

I have just replied.

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#10

Today, my call was connected to the UI office. At first the staff who answered the phone didn't seem to understand, but I was put on hold for about 10 minutes and this is what I was told.
In conclusion, "Private business income is also reported in Gross. If that exceeds the weekly UI amount for the week, the UI will be Disqualified".

Were you self-employed during the week? * → Yes

Enter hours worked * → Number of hours

Did you receive residual pay, commissions or other deductible income such as bonuses, or back pay? Enter amount


I also checked "Gross is ？" to make sure, and it is "purely （ the amount received during the week from clients, etc. ） without deducting expenses, etc.

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#11

Sandy,

Thank you for sharing this valuable information ！ I really appreciate your detailed follow-up report in your personal email.

I think the information from Sandy is very encouraging for those who are trying to restart their own private business as a side business and for those who are trying to start a new private business.

I sincerely support Sandy to get her business back on track day by day.

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#12
  • Sandy
  • 2021/02/05 (Fri) 17:33
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Dear Sunset and everyone

It has been a while since I have posted.

Someone in a similar position （ whose main job is Lay Off, a side business and sole proprietorship ） has recently talked to UI staff （ who are not call center staff but are in a position to correct mistakes etc ） and asked a similar question, and he was told something completely different than what he ＃ wrote in 10.

The staff member he spoke with seemed to say that he only needed to report the number of hours he worked in his private practice, not his income.

The answer to the question "Did you receive residual pay, commissions or other deductible income such as bonuses, or back pay? "* is "No".
because this means salary, etc. received from a past or present Employer （ ）.


So, ＃ the information I wrote in 10 could be wrong ・ ・ ・ this is also what the call center person told me, but if I have put wrong information. My apologies.

Who should I believe in the end, since different call center staff say different things ？ ？ .

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#13

Sandy,

There is no need to apologize, as this is an oversight on the part of the call center, which is in a position to disseminate correct information. The problem of disjointed advice from the call center has happened before, so there is no need to worry about it. The position to correct mistakes is probably Adjuster. You could ask through the call center to strongly persist and ask the Adjuster to connect you as is ？.

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#14

Thank you Sunset, I am very happy to hear from you.
（ For some reason I got an error when I tried to write, so I am Sandy1's handle, but I am the same person as Sandy. ）

Still, the problem is that the call center people are not consistent in what they say.
I am turned off by that.

I have reported my personal business income based on what I was advised in #10.
I'm stressed that this will cause my Claim to be inconsistent and Pending to be prolonged.
Since I am already 4 months Pending ・ ・ ・. No calls at all.

I have also called the call center but they are not connecting any more than before.
I hope the problem will be resolved soon.

In a little over a month, my 52 week Benefit Year will be over.
I am also worried about what will happen if my Benefit Year ends while PEUC13 is Pending.

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#15
  • Sandy
  • 2021/02/06 (Sat) 08:33
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Thank you, Sunset. Still, the problem is that the call center people are not consistent in what they say.
I am being turned off by that.

I have reported my personal business income based on what I was advised in #10.
I'm stressed that this will cause my Claim to be inconsistent and Pending to be prolonged.
Since I am already 4 months Pending ・ ・ ・. No calls at all.

I have also called the call center but they are not connecting any more than before.
I hope the problem will be resolved soon.

In a little over a month, my 52 week Benefit Year will be over.
I am also worried about what will happen if my Benefit Year ends while PEUC13 is Pending.

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#16

Nice to meet you and thank you for sharing your valuable information.

I am in a similar situation as Sandy.
I recently had income from a private business for 2 weeks and I applied with the help of this information.


The first week was less than my weekly income, but it was Pending.
Also, the details said PENDING DECISION ON YOUR ABILITY AND AVAILABILITY FOR WORK.

The following week it was DISQUALIFIED because the amount received per week was exceeded.
And REPORTED EARNINGS OF $ ＊ ＊ IS GREATER THAN YOUR WEEKLY BENEFIT AMOUNT OF $ ＊ ＊ .
PENDING DECISION ON YOUR ABILITY AND AVAILABILITY FOR WORK
.


I am worried that this will be terminated as I have no plans to receive any income for some time to come.
Please let me know if you have any further information.

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#17
  • Sandy
  • 2021/02/06 (Sat) 23:39
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Mr. Mango

Even if the income for the week exceeds the weekly UI amount and is disqualified, if there is no income for the following week, I think it is safe to continue to file because you said that you can continue to file if there is no income again.

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#18

Sandy

Thank you for your advice.
I will continue with the application.

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#19

Sandy, Mango,

The UI office can look at the work history with the applicant's social security number, so it is possible that this indication means that they need to look at the private business record and investigate whether it is UI or PUA eligible. I think.
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PENDING DECISION ON YOUR ABILITY AND AVAILABILITY FOR WORK

I still think you should ask the call center if they have anything to submit regarding your private business. Also, if you can get through to the adjuster, I would suggest that you ask them to correct the past filing on the spot. It's hard to get through to the call center, but I have a feeling that the UI office will put it off if you keep waiting.

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#20

Sunset,

Thanks for the advice.
I will try my best to call them. I will share any further developments.

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#21

Mr. Sunset

called the office and inquired about the current situation.

I will share some of the content.

I explained my income to the office and they indicated that I had not been claimed for the week I explained. Furthermore, I was told that I would have to file an application if I worked as a sole proprietor.
However, I had the Confirmation Number with me, so I told them that and then explained the situation again, and they corrected it.
I am glad that I can continue my application again.

The office staff was patient and helpful.

I guess the best thing to do is to call them patiently ！

Thank you Sunset for your advice.

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#22

Mango,

I am late to notice your comment and just noticed it. Thank you so much for sharing this valuable information. I think it was a great tip for those who have private businesses.

I sincerely support Mr. Mango to get his private business on track.

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#23

To all UI recipients who have a sole proprietorship,

[MEUC Program]

After reconfirming with the Unemployment Insurance Help Team, we would like to share the email that was sent out to UI recipients who are not eligible for the MEUC Program. According to the content of the email, UI recipients who earned over $5,000 in private business will receive $100 per week.

The application process is to apply for "Mixed Earners Unemployment Compensation" on the PUA page and submit the required documents.

The contents of the email are pasted below.

Beginning June 17, 2021, DLIR will begin accepting applications for Mixed Earners Unemployment Compensation (MEUC), which provides an MEUC is available to individuals receiving regular UI or extended benefits who also received MEUC is available to individuals receiving regular UI or extended benefits who also received at least $ 5,000 of net self-employment income in the most recent tax year ending prior to the individual's application for UI benefits. Individuals who are eligible for MEUC will receive the supplemental benefit for any week that they are paid UI benefits between December 27, 2020 and the week ending September 4, 2021. Individuals receiving PUA may not receive MEUC benefits.

To apply, go to https://pua.hawaii.gov and If you previously applied for PUA but you are now eligible for regular UI, you will need to apply for MEUC benefits. The application link can be found under the "More" tab. Once the application is submitted, you will be required to provide documentation verifying that you received at least $ 5,000 of net You will be sent a notification as to how and when to submit this documentation. If you are deemed eligible, you will automatically receive the supplemental payments for any week that you received an underlying unemployment payment during the eligibility period. No additional action will be required.

For the purposes of determining income for Medicaid and the Children's For the purposes of determining income for Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP), MEUC payments are not exempt and may affect an individual's eligibility for these programs. PENALTIES:
2104(f) of the Cares Act states, in part, that if an individual has knowingly made, or caused to be made by another, a false statement or representation of a material fact, or knowingly has failed, or caused another to fail, to disclose a material fact, and as a result of such false The individual shall be ineligible to receive further MEUC. The individual shall be subject to criminal prosecution under 18 U.S.C. § 1001. The individual shall be required to repay the MEUC benefits including a 15% monetary penalty.

Anyone with questions or concerns regarding the above e-mail distribution should contact the PUA contact person at the call center.

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#24

Continued from #23.

I've also received an official announcement from Governor Ige, so I'll post the link.
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http://labor.hawaii.gov/blog/news/dlir-launches-mixed-earner-unemployment-compensation-meuc-program/?fbclid=IwAR21TgYm2v4OlOSgVDPXuUkF4loCahha7Uf_gZYpNsTbuUiLfzeeS_0-jlo

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#25
  • cookie
  • 2021/06/20 (Sun) 08:50
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I am a UI recipient, but I was also a sole proprietor, so I received an email for MEUC.
I proceeded to apply and found that
the requirement is that I must have received UI and PEUC from December 27, 2020, and
in my case, although I applied for the 1st PEUC in November after my UI ended,
I had over 7 months of UI overpayment and the 1st PEUC I have been in a situation where my first PEUC has not been working at all for more than 7 months due to UI overpayment,
so I thought that I do not fit into this eligibility period.
I think I will call you on a weekday, but
I know you may be one of the few here, but
there were some people like me who are sole proprietors and
UI, PEUC recipients, so
please share the progress of this MEUC. I would be very happy if you could share the progress of this MEUC.
Please do so.

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