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After returning to work and before my first filing, I discovered that the company had filed with UI for "temporary termination" and me for "full termination".

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#1
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  • 2021/03/31 14:58

Hello everyone

I started back to work last week.
Last week and this week only a few days, but starting next week I will be working 5 days a week （ about 30 hours ）.

So I spent a week reading the PEUC Unemployment Insurance 13 week extension program since I got the call to return last week to see what was relevant.

First, I reviewed ＃ 348 ， ＃ 340 Reinstatement Notes.
However,
＃ 311 ， ＃ 314 ， ＃ 321 I first noticed that
when I applied for unemployment insurance last March, I had chosen "layoff" with my colleagues
this time I checked with the company and discovered that they had reported it as a "temporary layoff".

＃
as explained in 311, "Are you still employed with ～ ？ no question, Did you look for a Job?"
As well as this, I've only ever had the look for a job question in my every filing.

However, the UI has never pointed out that there is a discrepancy between my application and the company's, and
I have received my benefits for the past year without any problems.

I forget what post it was, but
it was explained that the way to check that is
"whether or not the company details are shown on the File a Claim Certification screen", and I saw that my I see that my account does not show any company details.
I still think I am being applied for a layoff.


I am anxious to avoid being Pending and have not yet filed for the last week ending March 20.

＃ 171 ， ＃ "Reactivate a Claim Application" at 170
Is it necessary to re-file even though it is the same company details as this one, or
if so, should I follow this same process? If so, is it sufficient to follow the same process as this one?

or
＃ Should I just do the same process as in 348 [temporary unemployment or shortened hours → full time return] and just file without doing anything?


I am back at work and no longer have the time to keep calling the UI until I get connected like I used to
If anyone here has experienced the same situation when returning to work,
or is a manager or works in a department that handles UI for employees and experienced a similar case, please let us know. If you have experienced a similar situation when returning to work, or if you are a manager or work in a department that handles employee UI and have experienced a similar case,
please advise us.

If the UI can get through to the caller easily, I can solve the problem without any trouble, but
I just keep saying "one, one, one" and then the robot voice says goodbye and hangs up, and I just keep repeating it over and over again and sigh.

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#2

I see that you have been reading the topic with great enthusiasm, so I would like to make a suggestion.

The following suggestions should be considered as a "last resort" in case the call center cannot be reached.

After confirming that my last unemployment insurance payment, due April 3, was credited to my bank account, I was told, "I only recently learned on ●●2021 that my employer had placed me on Furlough （ temporary termination ） status. I have been on Permanent Layoff （ Full Termination ） status by mistake since March ●●, 2020 and I would like to change the status in my UI account. I am not sure if I should apply for Reactivate a Claim, so please contact me if you need to apply for it. We recommend that you send the letter by mail, which requires a signature so that the post office does not lose it on the way.

● Name, last four digits of social security number, address, phone number, and email address
● Copy of employer's temporary termination letter
● Employer information and contact information

There is no difference between a full termination and a temporary termination, including WBA. There is no need to worry, of course, as there is no fine. I think it would be safer to just report the correction now in case you don't expect a re-lockdown or your employer dissolves and you need unemployment insurance again later.

If you need to apply for Reactivate a Claim, you will be contacted by the UI office after you send the letter. If you don't hear from them, try calling to follow up about a month after sending the letter.

If there are no advice posts from people with experience, consider proceeding as above.

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#3
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  • 2021/03/31 (Wed) 21:12
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Dear sunset

It's been a while
Thank you for all your support.

The company has explained to us that they may reopen but do not know when they will be closed again,
so my hope is to just keep the account going, as Hawaii itself is still in a situation where the future is not clear right now.

I will continue to call UI as long as I have time, but in parallel, I will also try to tell UI in the way suggested by sunset.
And
should I file
last week on 3/20 and this week on 4/3 as #348?

Thanks for your suggestion ！ ！

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#4

Candy,

"Should I file for 3/20 last week and #348 this week for 4/3?"
↑
If you work less than 40 hours per week or less than WBA, you should always file because unemployment insurance will be paid.

If your only purpose is to keep your UI account active, you should continue filing weekly even if you work more than 40 hours per week or WBA. The UI office system will display "Disqualified" immediately without waiting for a labor report from the employer, but you can keep your UI account active.

But there is a concern. The unemployment insurance help team told me that in the first half of last year there were many cases where UI accounts were automatically suspended if they were not touched for several months, but now they are not seeing any such cases at all. I certainly have not seen any such cases recently. I think that maybe the UI system has been upgraded and no longer stops automatically. But only the UI office can tell if that is true.

Back on topic, filing weekly may be a hassle, but I think it would be safer in the long run to continue filing weekly until Hawaii reopens in earnest and the employer makes a final decision that there will be no suspension or dissolution.

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#5
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  • 2021/04/03 (Sat) 19:44
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Mr. sunset
good evening

thank you for your response.
I have one question for confirmation.

"If you work less than 40 hours per week or less than your WBA, you should definitely file for unemployment insurance."
You explained that
my interpretation from your posts and
the handbook was that
"less than 40 hours per week and less than WBA"
......
If one of them is less than the other, would they receive ？




"Back on topic, filing every week may be a hassle, but until Hawaii is back in full swing and the employer has made a final determination that there is "no closure or dissolution", the weekly filing will continue. However, until Hawaii reopens in earnest and the employer makes a final decision that there will be no closure or dissolution, I think it would be safer in the long run to continue filing weekly."

I agree with this statement by sunset.
The company doesn't think that far ahead, and
if you don't have the correct knowledge and understanding on your own,
it will be you who will be in trouble when the time comes.
So, the information from everyone here helps me a lot.
Thank you.

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#7

Candy,

You will be Disqualified if you are either one of these, and the reason for being Disqualified will appear in the Details section as follows.

If you received labor income in excess of your WBA:
REPORTED EARNINGS OF $ ●● IS GREATER THAN YOUR WEEKLY BENEFIT AMOUNT OF $ ●●.

WORKED MORE THAN 40 HOURS WEEKLY:
WORKED 40 HOURS OR MORE

In other words, if you worked less than 40 hours per week but more than your WBA, you are disqualified. Also, if you earn less than your WBA but work more than 40 hours per week, you will be disqualified.

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#8
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  • 2021/04/04 (Sun) 12:33
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Mr. SUNSET

I still think that if neither of them is less than the stipulation, there is no payment.
Thank you.

So, I'd like to ask you to please read this,
I logged in this morning to file for the 3/27 deadline, and
after entering the hours worked, I was asked if I had a new job, and I answered yes, and then
I was asked to enter the name and phone number of the company. I was asked to enter the company name and phone number.
I knew for sure that it was a layoff application.
I went ahead and filed it as is
I stopped halfway through because I didn't know if I would have to
Reactivate it after tomorrow in the same vein as in #170,#171, and I haven't filed it yet.

If anyone has experienced this,
if you don't mind, could you please share the input you did at that time and the flow after that?
Thanks in advance.

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#9

Candy,

Just for the record.

In past topics （ last spring ）, those who made the mistake of entering the status of "fully terminated" or "temporarily terminated" on the Initial Application immediately contacted the UI Office within 3 months.

The response from the UI Office at that time was one of the following.
● Direct correction
● Reactivate a Claim application to change status

Since it is rare to change status after one year, it is possible that there is no one who would share this on this topic. Also, with the upgrade of the UI system, the advice from the call center has changed a little compared to last year.

The safest course of action is to check with the call center for the latest method.

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