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From Narita Airport to Hawaii

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#1
  • ハワイカイ
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  • 2022/04/07 02:27

I always use Haneda and this is my first time using Narita.
Which PCR would be cheaper ?
Would it be better to use Kinoshita Group at Haneda and then take a limousine bus to Narita ? Please let me know!

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#4
  • こーの字
  • 2022/04/07 (Thu) 15:00
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I am also interested in this question.

It seems that some airlines have different policies regarding the use of Kinoshita Group inspection results.
So I think it would be better to inquire with the airline you are using.
( I have inquired with JAL ).

I heard that there is a Kinoshita group store in Tokyo, so
if you stay in Tokyo, you don't have to stop at Haneda Airport.
https://covid-kensa.com/#shop_list

Also, here is a YouTube video from a while ago that summarizes cheap inspection.
This channel has been updated with various testimonials, so
I think it's worth checking out.
https://youtu.be/T2guDA1lifo

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#6

I watched the video pasted by Koji. I see that there are many cases where the Kinoshita Group is not acceptable. I wonder if there will be any change around GW. I hope that Japan's border control measures will be further eased.

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#7

If it was a PCR for returning to Japan, it was $ 140 at the kuhio walkin clinic in Waikiki.
I asked the ground staff at Honolulu airport, and they told me that now it is not necessary to use the format specified in Japan.
Even if the PCR is from CVS, etc., it is paper-based and can be used for boarding if signed by the physician. ( March 2022 )
Also, the PCR for coming back to Hawaii was a Kinoshita Group PCR. ZIP AIR from Narita had no problem.

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#8
  • こーの字
  • 2022/04/22 (Fri) 10:43
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Japan Fun,

Weekend Overseas Nomad's recent video summarizes the Kinoshita Group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3LCZaV9v9c&list=LL&index=4&t=1626s

Those who contacted Hawaiian Airlines were told no Those who contacted Hawaiian Airlines said they were told no.
Other companies seem to accept the antigen test.
However, you need to include your date of birth and passport number, so
you need to add them in some way.
Some people seem to be able to put their passport number on the certificate from Kinoshita Group by pre-populating the field for their last name,
like Yamamot / TZ00000.

It would be easier to come back to Hawaii or the US if the US eliminated the inspection proof check. There is some talk that Japan will keep the current system in place until the Upper House election, and I doubt that will change for a while.

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#9
  • こーの字
  • 2022/04/22 (Fri) 11:31
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Here is some information about this area to the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3LCZaV9v9c&list=LL&t=614s

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#10
  • サンダル
  • 2022/04/23 (Sat) 07:05
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The Kinoshita Group's only tests for entry are the PCR test or the quick antigen quantification test.
The quick antigen quantitative test is only available at Haneda Airport in Kanto.
The antigen qualitative test ¥ 1900, which is done at many stores, is
not a test for entry into the US.
You tuber Nomad Daisuke is wrong.
By the way,
Hawaiian was not allowed to board under the Kinoshita group when they came back on the flight the day before yesterday.

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#11
  • こーの字
  • 2022/04/23 (Sat) 09:27
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I have read the
CDC page because I am tempted to put my hope in the antigen qualitative test of the Kinoshita Group. So I am biased.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html?fbclid=IwAR3fh05xEqYqeQbn5SHKJ7RA6xM2JsGG812qStVd7uq6LgtQAF202Ln7zfI#anchor_1635127081

Test and Documentation Requirements > What types of SARS-CoV-2 tests are acceptable under the Order
You must be tested with a viral test to look for current infection - these include an antigen test or a nucleic acid amplification test

Phrases indicating a test could include an antigen test, but are not limited to: ( but are not limited to mistakes ? )
- Rapid antigen test
- Viral antigen test
- Also, could be noted as Antigen Chromatographic Digital Immunoassay, Antigen Chemiluminescence Immunoassay, or Antigen Lateral Flow Fluorescence
If the above notes are correct, then it is not limited to the antigen tests shown here.

Also, reading a little further down,
The test must be authorized for use by the relevant national authority for the detection of SARS-CoV-2 in the The test must be authorized for use by the relevant national authority for the detection of SARS-CoV-2 in the country where the test is administered. Is the Kinoshita Group's antigen qualitative test used as proof in Japan?

Here is a question, does Hawaiian Airlines not recognize the antigen qualitative test,
or do other airlines tacitly recognize the antigen qualitative test which originally cannot be used for entry into the U.S.,
what about this area?
ANA's page says that Qualitative Antigen Test (QAT) is also allowed.
https://anasalesa.com/covid-19_update/

The Kinoshita Group's PCR is also inexpensive, so I guess I should just take that one without thinking, but I'm the one who wants to know the results as soon as possible.
Or if I don't want to risk it, it might be safer to take the test at a laboratory that issues test results on the same day, without any confusion. If the US government eliminated the requirement to submit negative results, that would be the easiest thing to do.

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#12

JAL was fine with the Kinoshita Group's quick antigen quantification test, as long as you add your passport number and other information to the Kinoshita Group's negative certificate (handwritable).
I went to Haneda Airport the day before to take the quick antigen quantification test just to be sure, printed out the negative certificate, and added the necessary information for entry into Japan.
If you want to do it at Haneda airport just before boarding on the same day, you need to print out the negative certificate
and then it is difficult.
I have not heard of any airline that allows antigen identification test when returning to Hawaii.

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#13

I returned to Hawaii a few days ago on an ANA flight from Haneda.
As a conclusion, I can tell you that I was able to board ~ the flight with a negative certificate for the antigen qualitative test at the PCR inspection site of Kinoshita Group in my neighborhood in Tokyo, which is not an airport, and which is the cheapest and the fastest way to receive the results.

The inspection can be done at any time one day before boarding, so even local residents can be inspected locally and avoid the rushed situation at the airport on the day of departure.
I received an e-mail about 15 minutes after the test to inform me of the result.

The negative certificate used to require a printout or other paper form, but now a digital display on the phone screen is acceptable.
The Kinoshita Group certificate does not indicate the date of birth, but if you present your date of birth on the Kinoshita Group's My Page, there is no problem.
If you can afford it, it may be even safer if you are prepared to enter your text in PDF or print it out and write it in.
When creating a My Page for the Kinoshita Group, be careful not to make any mistakes in the date of birth, and if you wish to alphabetize the name on the negative certificate, it would be better to enter the name in the same way as in a passport, rather than in Chinese characters.

Regarding the inspection method and negative certificate presentation method, we confirmed the above at the ANA check-in counter at Haneda Airport and actually boarded a flight to enter the U.S. We were told to check the latest information when we boarded our flight.
Also, I saw that other companies do not accept negative certificates from the Kinoshita Group, and since I myself confirmed that ANA's response was in line with the CDC's request, I am not sure what the other companies' response is, but I think you need to reconfirm this because it would be a waste of time if they do not let you on board.

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#15
  • Tokyo
  • 2022/04/23 (Sat) 16:21
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↑ Postscript.
As a test method, I think PCR is certainly more acceptable than the antigen qualitative test, but when I asked the Kinoshita Group at the time of the test about the scheduled notification of the PCR test results, I was told that it would be until midnight of the next day.
Since there was no guarantee that we would receive the results in time for our airport check-in for our flight to Hawaii, we opted for the antigen qualitative test.
Both tests are currently free of charge for Tokyo residents, but please check with other local governments to see if they offer free testing.

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#16
  • こーの字
  • 2022/04/23 (Sat) 19:40
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Tokyo, thank you for sharing your experience.
I see that ANA approves of the Kinoshita Group's antigen qualitative test.

In the comment section of Weekend Overseas Nomad above ( HIROMI YAMAGUCHI ) said that
JAL replied to her by e-mail that they recognize Kinoshita Group's antigen qualitative test.
https://youtu.be/x3LCZaV9v9c

I think each company may respond differently, so I will check with the airline I use somewhere.

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#17
  • Tokyo.
  • 2022/04/23 (Sat) 22:06
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We hope that our experience within a few days will be helpful.

I think it is unusual that each airline handles the Covid Test for entry into the US for international flights differently, even though the US CDC indicates that there is a rule for the Covid Test for entry into the US.
In my case, there was no queue behind me when I checked in at Haneda, so I checked the current negative certificate acceptance requirements against the CDC regulations for your tablet with the counter person.
As a result,
as described above, you can board
by digitally presenting a negative antigen test certificate from the Kinoshita Group (OK in town except at the airport) from 1 day prior to boarding.

I checked Sandal's post in other topics, but I also felt that it was not in line with the current situation and was making people anxious.
I think Nomad Daisuke's information on YouTube is correct.

However, no matter how much you argue with the airlines that approve negative certificates, you will not be able to cross to Hawaii if you are denied boarding, so please check for yourself.

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#19

I returned to Honolulu on 4/21 by JAL. The day before, I took the antigen qualitative test at Kinoshita Group in Shibuya and received the result in about 30 minutes.
I presented the printout at check-in. The CDC does not require a paper form, so I only needed to present the negative certificate saved on my phone to check in.

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#20
  • ロコモコ
  • 2022/04/24 (Sun) 05:18
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When I returned to Japan earlier this month, I was able to use the free PCR test kit distributed by the U.S. government and easily test myself with an online appointment.
The PCR test kit is CDC-approved, so you can test at home with no hassle.
You open the box in front of the inspector online, follow the instructions, and the negative proof is emailed to you immediately.
It costs $ 25 for the issuance of that document, but Kinoshita may be the cheapest at 1900 yen, but there is a possibility of rejection ?

Why not use the free PCR test kit from the government rather than take that risk ??
Maybe because there is no internet access in Japan and remote testing is not possible ?
Maybe because it is easy, reliable, and inexpensive ? I am not surprised.
PCR test kits approved by the US government can certainly be used back home in the US.
If you live in the U.S., the government distributes 8 kits for free. ?
And you should use them because they expire at the end of July.

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#21
  • kiki
  • 2022/04/25 (Mon) 04:18
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Sandal's post on

"Kinoshita Group's is the only test eligible for entry, either the PCR test or the quick antigen quantitative test.
The antigen qualitative test ¥ 1900 that many stores do is
not a US entry test."

This is a mistake.
The Kinoshita Group states that the Quick Antigen Quantitative Test is at the level of overseas travel, but nowhere does it say that it is suitable for overseas travel, and when I inquired, the following answer came to me when I had forgotten.

◆Our test result notification is basically for Japanese domestic use.

◆If you are planning to travel overseas, please contact the airline and the immigration office
of the destination country you are planning to travel to ・ to confirm whether you are allowed to travel
with the information in the format issued by our inspection center in advance.

* Please check with your destination country's entry control conditions and your airline's boarding conditions.


This means.
Some reports indicate that this is not allowed on Hawaiian Airlines, but on JAL, both quantitative and qualitative inspections are acceptable.
This has been checked directly by JAL, so we are sure at this point. That would mean that you can use the qualitative test that is offered free of charge in the region.

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#22
  • こーの字
  • 2022/04/25 (Mon) 08:00
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RoccoMoco mentioned the iHealth Antigen Rapid Test.
I thought it could not be used for travel, but
I see that it can be used for entry into the U.S. if you follow the procedure below and take the test with online guidance.
https://ihealthlabs.com/products/ihealth-verified-covid-test-service

This was under the light.
It's convenient not to have to go to the inspection station.
I'll put it in one of the suggestions.

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#23
  • 花丸
  • 2022/04/25 (Mon) 09:33
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Ehh !
Is the free antigen test that pharmacies and other places in Japan offer
good ?
Kiki
Thanks for the great information.
I have some friends around me who are coming back this week
I will tell them ! They all booked the Picapara PCR test for almost 10,000 yen, so it will be a big help if the free test is good.

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#24
  • こーの字
  • 2022/04/25 (Mon) 10:09
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Hanamaru-san,
Maybe there are two points,
1. whether the pharmacy's free antigen test meets the CDC requirements,
2. whether the form they prepare meets the immigration requirements,
I think.
1. seems to have a wide opening based on the posts in this thread.
As for 2., for example, I copied from ANA's information page ( https://anasalesa.com/covid-19_update/ ) but the following is a requirement:
The Kinoshita Group is a group of companies that are in the process of developing a new business. In the case of Kinoshita Group, everyone should add their date of birth and passport number in some way in the "personal details" section.
As for the language, I believe that either Japanese or English is acceptable as long as the airline company can determine it, but
I remember that English or a translation is preferred in case a CDC official needs to examine it upon entry into the U.S.
( Sorry for not posting primary information )

I am not familiar with the free tests available at pharmacies in Japan, so I can't say much more, but
I hope this helps.

① Personal details : In addition to name, personally identifiable information ( Date of birth or passport number, etc. )
*Note: Name and personally identifiable information on the negative certificate must match "passport". must be consistent.
② Date of specimen collection
③ Laboratory information ( Name and contact details of the medical institution where the test was performed )
④ Test results must be listed as follows.
・ "Negative"
・ "Undetectable"
・ "SARS-CoV-2 RNA Not Detected"
・ "SARS-CoV-2 Antigen Not Detected"
・ "COVID-19 Not Detected"
・ "Not Reactive"
⑤ If the test method is one of the following CDC-approved approved by the CDC and approved in the country in which the following methods are used.

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#25
  • こーの字
  • 2022/04/25 (Mon) 16:36
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Regarding the language of the negative certificate, I think I understand the above description (#24).

Q: Do test results need to be in English? Will the airline require a hard copy of the test results? https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/before-you-go/covid-19_testing_required_US_Entry.html

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#26
  • kiki
  • 2022/04/25 (Mon) 17:39
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Hanamaru-san
Most of the places that do this in local pharmacies are not able to provide travel certificates as far as I could tell. They are only supposed to be used as a security check for domestic travel and are treated as free of charge in each region.

As for the Kinoshita Group, it is written in English and there are some missing parts, but it is issued as a certificate, so if it meets the airline's standards, it is qualitatively acceptable.

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